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  1. #1041
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    Honestly, with the way they were thinking with allowing EVERYONE to flood the 1.0 servers, they probably weren't thinking about it opening the floodgates for applications. It would explain why at first, applications were denied, but were allowed some time after the servers went down.

    This was my first thought when people started reporting these "inactive" accounts, but I figured someone would have a better explanation <.<
    Yeah it seems the system just performs a basic check on whether an account is active or not. When they designed the alpha application form they could not have predicted SE setting all accounts to active and just took the easiest route of coding a simple check on active/inactive. They may even be aware of the issue but deemed it too low priority to fix.

    The decision to open the floodgates was most likely a late/last minute decision and since it sounds harmless on paper didn't go through the full testing process to find out what the consequences would be.
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  2. #1042
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    Yeah it seems the system just performs a basic check on whether an account is active or not. When they designed the alpha application form they could not have predicted SE setting all accounts to active and just took the easiest route of coding a simple check on active/inactive. They may even be aware of the issue but deemed it too low priority to fix.

    The decision to open the floodgates was most likely a late/last minute decision and since it sounds harmless on paper didn't go through the full testing process to find out what the consequences would be.
    If this was the case, they definitely became aware of it some time after and have fixed it, as per the previous post, where someone just tried and denied.

    If this is indeed the scenario, at least we have an (unofficial) answer as to why these accounts were able to apply in a short window of opportunity.
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  3. #1043
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zdenka View Post
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    My husband has paid for 3 months total to get legacy, and that's it. He cancelled billing right after he got his legacy email. (Which was a whileback now, a few months atleast.)
    He applied with an inactive account and lo and behold Last night - he got the invite, not me (who has been paying and playing since 1.0 alpha).

    I have beaten him with sticks, he did not enjoy it.

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  4. #1044
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    My husband has paid for 3 months total to get legacy, and that's it. He cancelled billing right after he got his legacy email. (Which was a whileback now, a few months atleast.)
    He applied with an inactive account and lo and behold Last night - he got the invite, not me (who has been paying and playing since 1.0 alpha).

    I have beaten him with sticks, he did not enjoy it.

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    Can you tell us more or less when he applied?
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  5. #1045
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    Can you tell us more or less when he applied?
    Ugh off the top of my head I honestly can't ;;, I wish I could! (lemme ask him really fast)

    Ok! ...he can't remember either Q_Q; If it was at any time though I'd hazard a guess at around when all accounts were made active, he logged in for like a day and went "Shiny!" then went back to doing whatever else it is that he does. . . like giving me cheek.
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    Last edited by Nix; 12-11-2012 at 09:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    My husband has paid for 3 months total to get legacy, and that's it. He cancelled billing right after he got his legacy email. (Which was a whileback now, a few months atleast.)
    He applied with an inactive account and lo and behold Last night - he got the invite, not me (who has been paying and playing since 1.0 alpha).

    I have beaten him with sticks, he did not enjoy it.

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    I hope you took his account afterwards, that's what I would of done. Not like Alpha data gonna get carried over.
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  7. #1047
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majoga View Post
    I hope you took his account afterwards, that's what I would of done. Not like Alpha data gonna get carried over.
    Haha I wanted to, I was so tempted! But I didn't have the heart, he really wants to see what the game is like^^. I can just threaten to starve him if he doesn't tell me all about it. (He cannot cook to save his life)
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  8. #1048
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    So based on that, we're closer to proving my theory right <.< He was able to log on after cancelling his sub months before.

    Nix, shake his head a bit! Maybe more info will pop up! (Also, is it possible to check by email or something when the app was submitted?)
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  9. #1049
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    So based on that, we're closer to proving my theory right <.< He was able to log on after cancelling his sub months before.

    Nix, shake his head a bit! Maybe more info will pop up! (Also, is it possible to check by email or something when the app was submitted?)
    There wasn't a confirmation email when you applied. It just said you would receive an email if selected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    So based on that, we're closer to proving my theory right <.< He was able to log on after cancelling his sub months before.

    Nix, shake his head a bit! Maybe more info will pop up! (Also, is it possible to check by email or something when the app was submitted?)
    I might have to bop him later, I won't sift through his email because that's like going through a guys' underwear drawer - super stinkeh and you never know what you might find! lol

    when he gets back from his slavery (work) I'll with-hold food until he complies
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