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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    are afraid of the changes.

    and excuse me, sir. how can you tell how these changes are going to be bad, when you havent played it already? no you cant.

    it just sounds like the character models graphics downgrade flame.. because people have been afraid ARR being a downgrade concerning that... because they watched 2-3 gameplay trailers.. and what is now? we know they have been totally false..
    its like people cried about a downgrade when it comes to graphic.. which we see now ingame, was a total inappropiate "pre-flame"
    Oh, I see.. So not only are you ignorantly dismissive... You also presume to know others thoughts and views better than they do. You have no basis for saying this beyond what you spin in that imagination of yours.

    How can I claim the changes are going to be bad when I haven't had a chance to experience them myself? The same exact way you, or anyone else, can look at those same changes and conclude that they're good. You see what's being shown, you read what's being written and you listen to what's being said, and you base your opinions on that.

    Further, you don't know what I or others have or haven't gotten to experience themselves. So again, more presumption and conjecture from you without anything solid to base it on.

    And finally, people could still look at the graphics and consider it a downgrade. That would be called subjective opinion. Your opinion to the contrary does not override theirs. So, once again, you're making an assertion on something for which you have absolutely no leg to stand on.

    There's not a single thing you've said in either your previous post, or this response that is at all grounded in anything but your own imagination. A word of advice: Stick to what you know. Stop pretending to know what you don't.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    O You have no basis for saying this beyond what you spin in that imagination of yours.


    There's not a single thing you've said in either your previous post, or this response that is at all grounded in anything but your own imagination. A word of advice: Stick to what you know. Stop pretending to know what you don't.

    so and now.. please look into the mirror. maybe you will understand then. thanks a lot.

    and btw i bet you also posted in the "character models are a downgrade" thread :P
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 12-09-2012 at 01:06 AM.

  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    so and now.. please look into the mirror. thanks a lot.
    Oh, I have. And what I see is someone who doesn't go around claiming to know what others think better than they do. What I see is someone who doesn't dismiss or spin differing opinions simply because they don't echo my own. What I see is someone who sees things for what they are, not for what I want them to be.

    You're welcome.

    Thanks for playing.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    Oh, I have. And what I see is someone who doesn't go around claiming to know what others think better than they do. What I see is someone who doesn't dismiss or spin differing opinions simply because they don't echo my own. What I see is someone who sees things for what they are, not for what I want them to be.

    You're welcome.

    Thanks for playing.
    ouch O.< keep it clean guys we want no blood here..or do we? O.o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    so and now.. please look into the mirror. maybe you will understand then. thanks a lot.

    and btw i bet you also posted in the "character models are a downgrade" thread :P
    That's the point she's trying to make. It's all based on personal views which is why dismissing an opinion for trolling or white knighting is nothing more than dismissal under a toxic mindset.
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    well she doesnt do it in an other way, she says she knows how the game is going to be then i say how the game is going to be.

    and then she says i claim to know it better than others, but she(he) isnt doing better in the moment? ^^ i say mirror.

    so funny.


    stop these disgusting flame wars about every shit.. start with it when you are at least in alpha. but i doubt you are, from what i can read here..
    and i was the troll? O.o really?
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    well she doesnt do it in an other way, she says she knows how the game is going to be then i say how the game is going to be.

    and then she says i claim to know it better than others, but she(he) isnt doing better in the moment? ^^ i say mirror.

    so funny.


    stop these disgusting flame wars about every shit.. start with it when you are at least in alpha. but i doubt you are, from what i can read here..
    I'm sorry I'm having difficulty figuring out what you're saying.

    Just know that when someone dosn't like the direction this game is going, there's a good chance that they're not trolling or flaming.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forgo View Post
    and i was the troll? O.o really?

    well... you can only troll in these trash threads.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    I'm sorry I'm having difficulty figuring out what you're saying.

    Just know that when someone dosn't like the direction this game is going, there's a good chance that they're not trolling or flaming.
    isnt it more of the imagination of them to think its going into a complete other direction? id say partly, oh yes.
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 12-09-2012 at 01:29 AM.

  9. #109
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    Why would one need to be in Alpha to have an opinion?
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levian View Post
    Why would one need to be in Alpha to have an opinion?

    you can have an opinion, but i am also not discussing anything to death then...*looks at the hundreds of threads* but well.. go on with it.

    and all seem to know how ARR is going to be, how it is going to feel... because they saw some clips.

    would you really know how 1.0. feels with just watching a couple of clips?
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