Lost faith in Yoshi-P?

[Nosiahk]

I haven't lost faith no, far from that. I am however deeply disappointed and I'll explain why.

10 years ago many of you got to play FF XI and you loved it. I loved it too I got to watch my older brother play but 10 years ago I was in high school, there's no way I could have afforded a PC and monthly fees. Two years ago I hear great news about this game coming to PS3 and PC the way XI did. So I go great finally (I'm a photographer I use apple everything, it just works) I can get it for PS3. I waited and checked in to stores constantly for this game, traveled to the other side of the world, brought my PS3 with me, for over a year nothing....
So I finally say F it this summer and build a PC just for this game, and I stress, just for this game. I played it, loved it, got my friends to play, one said it plays to slow and another said this is finally a game with that classic JRPG feel to it which isn't common anymore.
I got to play for like 6 months... then they say they're shutting the game down but it will be back up by the end of 2012. Two months of waiting isn't so bad but now and unconfirmed date yet again is just a piss off. That's being honest. I never knew what was going on behind the scenes with SE because I'm honestly way too busy irl to waste time doing so. Whenever they gave their word I simply expected them to live up to it like we all should.
I haven't lost faith in them making a good game for me the game I played the past 6 months was great. There's always room to improve don't state the obvious, I'm sure were all smart enough to get that. What disappoints me now is that while sure I may play the game cause I'm a loyal fan I know all of my friends who are also loyal fans wont just because they're sick of SE and their "reasons." ARR will come and so will new players but what good is it really if it's not the loyal player coming online? We all know the randoms just quit when a quest is "too hard" lol or they run out of anima, seen it with my own eyes.

I just hope SE win back their loyal gamers with an FF online game before it's too late.

And.... I have to agree with you.

[Tomoken]

I haven't lost faith no, far from that. I am however deeply disappointed and I'll explain why.

10 years ago many of you got to play FF XI and you loved it. I loved it too I got to watch my older brother play but 10 years ago I was in high school, there's no way I could have afforded a PC and monthly fees. Two years ago I hear great news about this game coming to PS3 and PC the way XI did. So I go great finally (I'm a photographer I use apple everything, it just works) I can get it for PS3. I waited and checked in to stores constantly for this game, traveled to the other side of the world, brought my PS3 with me, for over a year nothing....
So I finally say F it this summer and build a PC just for this game, and I stress, just for this game. I played it, loved it, got my friends to play, one said it plays to slow and another said this is finally a game with that classic JRPG feel to it which isn't common anymore.
I got to play for like 6 months... then they say they're shutting the game down but it will be back up by the end of 2012. Two months of waiting isn't so bad but now and unconfirmed date yet again is just a piss off. That's being honest. I never knew what was going on behind the scenes with SE because I'm honestly way too busy irl to waste time doing so. Whenever they gave their word I simply expected them to live up to it like we all should.
I haven't lost faith in them making a good game for me the game I played the past 6 months was great. There's always room to improve don't state the obvious, I'm sure were all smart enough to get that. What disappoints me now is that while sure I may play the game cause I'm a loyal fan I know all of my friends who are also loyal fans wont just because they're sick of SE and their "reasons." ARR will come and so will new players but what good is it really if it's not the loyal player coming online? We all know the randoms just quit when a quest is "too hard" lol or they run out of anima, seen it with my own eyes.

I just hope SE win back their loyal gamers with an FF online game before it's too late.

Depending on the mac you could've did a dual-boot/bootcamp to also have Windows operate (I personally just build my own PCs/use Windows, but I've had friends do that with Macs before to play Windows-native games)

[fusional]

Your high? i'm sorry but tanaka ask for more time they said no tanaka had noting to do with XIV he said in a early interview few weeks from leaving SE that the Dev team did everything and he was not allow to do much. So there you go there was even a interview before ffxiv was release saying that they needed more time and they told him no he knew the game was not ready you need to get more information before talking bad about someone.

You want someone to blame everyone CEO,Dev and tanaka just not one person.

my high?

and he said? HE said? lolllllllllllllll yeah okay, i'm sure that's a completely valid and totally unbiased source. (which, oddly, you haven't posted)

in and interview with me, i said you don't know what you're talking about. i said it, ergo true.

[DubstepNinja]

I have lost faith in Yoshi-P as much as I have lost faith in bacon

Delicious, Delicious Bacon

[fusional]

the game I played the past 6 months was great. There's always room to improve don't state the obvious...

...but what good is it really if it's not the loyal player coming online? We all know the randoms just quit when a quest is "too hard" lol or they run out of anima, seen it with my own eyes.

1. the game you played was an incarnation of 1.0 that had reached its absolute limits with the broken engine and coding architecture. you admit there were still improvements that could've been made, but the fact is they'd already reached the ceiling on what they could actually accomplish with it.

2. your not keeping up to speed with the new roadmap and development cycle of 2.0 is understandable given a busy life, but not their fault. they gave more than enough notice, and more than enough explanation why.

3. if yoshi did nothing to attract new players, the ONLY people who would be playing 2.0 are returning (loyal) players. if you want your game to be a success, that's a problem

4. the vast, overwhelming majority of people moaning for easier content weren't new players or randoms- it was your 'loyal' casual entitled player base. your evidence is anecdotal and flies in the face of a mountain of evidence to the contrary throughout this very forum.

[Mudd]

Yoshi did something amazing. He modified the 1.0 into something playable and enjoyable.

On the other hand, the success of the 2.0 is still unknown. The number of players will have to drastically increase from the numbers we saw on the 1.0 to make all the ressources and time invested in making the 2.0 worth it.

The thing is, they can't pull a selfish move and say "NOT ACCRUING MILLIONS FAST ENOUGH, F2P CASH SHOP TIME B)"

If they are patient and let it run to the end of its days like they are with FF11, it will pay off.
With just 20k subscribers (as an example, say they're all Legacy), they could acquire 12mil in 5 years.
With actually decent numbers, and non legacy members, they could make much much more.

[Gentaro]

If the question was "Have you lost faith in FFXIV?", I wouldn't know what to answer. I can't say I'm unhappy with how 1.x was in the end. In fact, I had a great time doing the relic quest and darnus hard. Seeing the game as it is now....I don't really know what to say. Of course, changing from one thing to another always seems awkward in the beginning- but 2.0 looks like it lost its unique flavor.
I've tried plenty of games, in many of them I got a char at max level - WoW,SWToR,Rift,Aion,Warhammer Online, FFXI, tera, EQ, EQ2,....

FFXI was unique
EQ was unique
WoW back then was unique

All of them were successful and profitable - but wow managed to catch the interest of a way bigger group than the other. And suddenly everyone wanted a piece of that cake. I cannot remember an mmo that has been much different to WoW ever since then.
FFXIV tried to be different - or they just failed at being just like the rest of the games, I don't know. Their own game, FFXI, had plenty of great concepts which could have been taken over, but instead they tried to be different in many ways. I still wonder why, didn't they want to compete with their own game? I'm not sure.
Anyways, you know how it ended - The perfectly sensemaking elemental wheel was chopped down and rearranged in a weird way, suddenly there are no white mages, but conjurers instead,.... and so on. We ended up getting a game that was different from FFXI and different from all the other MMOs on the market. Sadly this wasn't a good game in the end.
Then Tanaka got booted and Yoshida took over, trying to save what he could. We got our FF-type jobs back (sadly we still keep our rotten tail called "classes" with us for some reason), had a story that made sense and could be enjoyed - and now we get this new game. A game that looks like.....the rest.
Every single one of these games had something "unique" - Rift had its class system - Warhammer had its PvP - Aion had its flying - tera has its combat system - SWToR had its storytelling. What does FFXIV have now?
A unique class system, its FF-themed, possibly nice storytelling. Will that help FFXIV to get a large playerbase? No.

They admitted that they're watching other games to see what they could implement in 2.0 - we get the casual-questing from wow and the 23424 mmos that took the same route, we get the mass-quest-events from QW2, we get the standard mmo-hud, we get the standard mmo-control-scheme - all we have left is the job system - copied from our good old friend FFXI.
I'm not saying copying is bad - but in my opinion SE copies things to the worse and is bad at choosing what to copy.
Of course this is all alpha footage we have seen, but the basic idea is visible - noone can deny it that it looks like 2313234 other mmos on the market.
I really really hope that this "unique flavor" will be back in the final version of 2.0 and all what i say is bullshit - i really hope it. But right now it looks like the "feeling" 1.x gave me will not be there in 2.0...

However, I will still play 2.0 even if its just one reason: For Yoshida. I haven't lost faith in him and I was clearly aware from the beginning, that it might turn out to be a game I won't like anymore after hes done with it. That is totally ok. The way he changed 1.x was great, he did an awesome job. He does a good job with 2.0 as well, I hope he is successful with it.
You can say whatever you want: He tries his best. I don't know in what way SE is putting pressure on him, or if they gave him the order to make the mmo as it looks like now, but he makes as much as he can out of it. The most important thing to me is: He cares about the community. More than anyone. At the gamescom inbetween interviews and presentations, he used his short time inbetween to spend it by doing things for the fans there, taking photos, answering questions,.... . If i think back how Tanaka was....he did an autograph session. And thats it, he never showed himself, haven't said a word, nothing. I'm sure he wasn't lying about his sleeping times in the letters....

I still have faith in this guy, he has my support. And he deserves it.

[Zenaku]

my high?

and he said? HE said? lolllllllllllllll yeah okay, i'm sure that's a completely valid and totally unbiased source. (which, oddly, you haven't posted)

in and interview with me, i said you don't know what you're talking about. i said it, ergo true.

Like i'm going to find a 3year old interview anytime soon. He did say it if you don't believe me i don't care there even a new interview he did like 2month back saying that the dev told him to stand back and let them do w/e they want. This is the same interview talking about the side job he got once he left SE. Tanaka is not the only person to blame so stop blaming one person blame the CEO for making everyone release the game so early and blame the dev team for keep putting thing a side when there issue that why yosh-p is telling them if there a issue fix it now and worry about everything else later issue come first.

Even the CEO said if FFXIV fails again he be leaving so you see how FFXIV ARR is SE last hope for the big fuck up everyone did not just one person that all i'm saying.

[indira]

Your high? i'm sorry but tanaka ask for more time they said no tanaka had noting to do with XIV he said in a early interview few weeks from leaving SE that the Dev team did everything and he was not allow to do much. So there you go there was even a interview before ffxiv was release saying that they needed more time and they told him no he knew the game was not ready you need to get more information before talking bad about someone.

You want someone to blame everyone CEO,Dev and tanaka just not one person.

upper management is always the cause of some on the job BS. there usually clueless and try to make as much money as they can with out spending a dime then the workers suffer for it.

[DannyNobuser]

No Faith lost here the previews on the alpha testing look quite nice ill be happy to be able to read the text in bubbles where i dont have to scroll up and read lol and the landscape looks quite amazing over all i can say that hes doing a wonderful job i played 1.0 about 4 months after it was originaly release and it was horrid and now this game looks to be turinging out to being badass cant wait to play beta ill be sure to give all kinda of positive feed back

P.S. This is not FFXI so quite compairing to it