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    Quote Originally Posted by Yucie View Post
    Doesn't change the fact that WoW is the parasite destroying the MMORPG genre.
    Got any proof of that which is not sensationalist?

    Because MMORPGs in general are larger and more popular and less underground than they were before WOW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Got any proof of that which is not sensationalist?

    Because MMORPGs in general are larger and more popular and less underground than they were before WOW.
    No, WoW has gotten popular. MMORPGs are still something that typecasts you negatively in even other gaming circles. To say nothing of other social circles.

    Hell even Final fantasy fans in the US consider 11 and 14 the red headed stepchildren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    No, WoW has gotten popular. MMORPGs are still something that typecasts you negatively in even other gaming circles. To say nothing of other social circles.

    Hell even Final fantasy fans in the US consider 11 and 14 the red headed stepchildren.
    The peak of MMO subscribers was half a mil before WOW launched. Post WOW launch, there are a few MMOs at 900k or more, several more between 100k and 500k, and a TON of free/freemium small scale MMOs and pseudo-MMOs.

    Sorry dudes, WOW brought MMOs from something only basement dwellers played, to something casual and/or normal people play. It did the very opposite of kill MMORPGs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    The peak of MMO subscribers was half a mil before WOW launched. Post WOW launch, there are a few MMOs at 900k or more, several more between 100k and 500k, and a TON of free/freemium small scale MMOs and pseudo-MMOs.

    Sorry dudes, WOW brought MMOs from something only basement dwellers played, to something casual and/or normal people play. It did the very opposite of kill MMORPGs.
    But you will still be viewed as the former (or at least one with no social life) if you start talking about it in casual conversation. Gods help you if you even consider putting guild management as a skill on a resume. I've seen Final Fantasy panels that were loath to talk about it due to the fans, while jumping on the "remake past titles" bandwagon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    But you will still be viewed as the former (or at least one with no social life) if you start talking about it in casual conversation. Gods help you if you even consider putting guild management as a skill on a resume. I've seen Final Fantasy panels that were loath to talk about it due to the fans, while jumping on the "remake past titles" bandwagon.
    lmfao what?

    How socially inexperienced does someone have to be to list video game skills on a resume? What the Christ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    lmfao what?

    How socially inexperienced does someone have to be to list video game skills on a resume? What the Christ?
    There, you see? I say "being a Guild Leader", you say "video gaming?? Lolz."

    How normal is it to play MMOs again, to society? Remember the circus show that is the VGAs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    There, you see? I say "being a Guild Leader", you say "video gaming?? Lolz."

    How normal is it to play MMOs again, to society? Remember the circus show that is the VGAs.
    On the same level as it is to play non-MMO games.

    Which was not the case 1998-2004, when only the 'weirdos' played MMOs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    There, you see? I say "being a Guild Leader", you say "video gaming?? Lolz."

    How normal is it to play MMOs again, to society? Remember the circus show that is the VGAs.
    Depends. I've mentioned WoW to people, and I've gotten reactions ranging from "I tried it once" to "awesome. what server do you play on?". Sure you can mention Senator Santiaga--I mean, Senator Colleen Lachowicz, who was attacked during her campaign for playing WoW...except the attack failed and instead rallied the WoW fanbase to support her. She even won the election. There is a cultural shift taking place, believe it or not.

    PS: Yes, the US Senate has an orc in its fold. =P
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