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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    I merely provided a link to the quotes in which I used to further my point that it is the general consensus of opinion on the matter and when defining definitions, that is what makes a definition a fact.

    If you wish to argue that opinion can not be taken as fact, that is a whole different subject unfitting of the topic at hand.

    Back to the subject at hand, hardcore gamers take games seriously, casual gamers do not. There is some grey area as I mentioned but this is the general jest of what it takes to be considered hardcore or casual and the person in that video did not seem to grasp that.
    I'm not arguing the generalization of weather or not opinion can be taken as fact. I'm saying more specifically that your opinion on casual vs. hardcore (the matter at hand) isn't fact and so you can't call someone else wrong because they interpret the meaning differently. I'm not using the word definition, because there is none.
    On that note, I like to think I'm not actually arguing with you, just discussing, but that's just my opinion (see what I did there?)
    I have no wish to argue about anything ever, so I meant no offense in my original post when I said you sounded condescending.

    My own point of view differs from yours on what casual and hardcore is, that's why I took up the matter of opinion vs. fact. I play games a lot, I like to be great at them, and I will put in the work, practice, and research that a "hard core" gamer would, so I consider myself a "hardcore gamer" But I don't think I take games "seriously". I don't make a fuss when things don't go right, or when I don't get into alpha, or when others aren't treating the process as "serious business" I put in the hard work because it's fun for me, not because I find gaming to be a serious matter.

    P.S. it greatly amuses me that we're at opposite ends in this thread yet happily agreeing about Fernehalwes in another thread. Gotta love the online community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernehalwes View Post
    Great idea, Ralos!

    I'll pass it along to Yoshi-P personally

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralos View Post
    I'm not arguing the generalization of weather or not opinion can be taken as fact. I'm saying more specifically that your opinion on casual vs. hardcore (the matter at hand) isn't fact and so you can't call someone else wrong because they interpret the meaning differently. I'm not using the word definition, because there is none.
    On that note, I like to think I'm not actually arguing with you, just discussing, but that's just my opinion (see what I did there?)
    I have no wish to argue about anything ever, so I meant no offense in my original post when I said you sounded condescending.

    My own point of view differs from yours on what casual and hardcore is, that's why I took up the matter of opinion vs. fact. I play games a lot, I like to be great at them, and I will put in the work, practice, and research that a "hard core" gamer would, so I consider myself a "hardcore gamer" But I don't think I take games "seriously". I don't make a fuss when things don't go right, or when I don't get into alpha, or when others aren't treating the process as "serious business" I put in the hard work because it's fun for me, not because I find gaming to be a serious matter.

    P.S. it greatly amuses me that we're at opposite ends in this thread yet happily agreeing about Fernehalwes in another thread. Gotta love the online community.
    Well I guess that was the fault of my wording then, I do not mean that you have to make a fuss or get angry about alpha to be serious about a game. I simply mean one has to dedicate to gaming.

    Although I will agree to disagree on the exact definition, the guys was still full of shit.

    P.S. It's just proper forum manners not to bring feelings from one thread into another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    Well I guess that was the fault of my wording then, I do not mean that you have to make a fuss or get angry about alpha to be serious about a game. I simply mean one has to dedicate to gaming.

    Although I will agree to disagree on the exact definition, the guys was still full of shit.

    P.S. It's just proper forum manners not to bring feelings from one thread into another.
    +1d for good resolutions =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernehalwes View Post
    Great idea, Ralos!

    I'll pass it along to Yoshi-P personally