Arcanist/Summoner Abilities and Traits

[dbrewer225]

summoners will not have access to carbuncle. i repeat summoners will not have access to carbuncle. that is all.

[Shougun]

I'm only going to count this as a theory, but due to the nature of the difficulty of your FC defeating the primal so a person in your party can summon their essence sounds far-fetched. It sounds more logical that you fight primals through the SMN quest line, making them placed story events instead of trying to hunt them (Especially if you are lv.30, if they give it to you that early.). This would make more sense to me.

I forgot, I know Ifrit is confirmed, but who is did they confirm as summons? I think Garuda was the other.

The quote is so old I dont want to find it but I assure you that there was at least official speak of summoning a "true" summon. And it had to do with finding a roaming primal and whooping it. There was only one of the true primals available so only one group could really summon it. Once summoned you lost control and it went back to the wild.

[KaiserDrill]

I mentioned this in another thread but what yoshi said was "Carbuncleis arcanist exclusive". To me this means that it is like, for example, thundaga. The description for the spell (in 1.0 anyways) says thaumaturgy only. However, ablm still has access to the spell. I think what he meant is carby is going to be another such spell/ability. Lets face it, if every class and a handful of jobs could summon carby, why would people play arcanist/summoner? Its the signatureof the class and job; you dont want to have other jobs and classes to be able to do that. Not only for that reason but it would imbalance the game.

[Velhart]

The quote is so old I dont want to find it but I assure you that there was at least official speak of summoning a "true" summon. And it had to do with finding a roaming primal and whooping it. There was only one of the true primals available so only one group could really summon it. Once summoned you lost control and it went back to the wild.

I didn't mean the primals themselves, I meant the SMN's ability to summon primals. It would be unfair if one job had such an extreme task to get all their abilities compared to other jobs who get all their AF/abilities by doing storyline quests that involve no competition.

[Reika]

The quote is so old I dont want to find it but I assure you that there was at least official speak of summoning a "true" summon. And it had to do with finding a roaming primal and whooping it. There was only one of the true primals available so only one group could really summon it. Once summoned you lost control and it went back to the wild.

That is just something he was thinking about tho. I think they plan to have 'lesser' elemental summons after all, and maybe do the whole primal thing as an extra.

[Shougun]

I didn't mean the primals themselves, I meant the SMN's ability to summon primals. It would be unfair if one job had such an extreme task to get all their abilities compared to other jobs who get all their AF/abilities by doing storyline quests that involve no competition.

Oooo Ok.
Yeah i dont think the true primal summoning has anything to do with the summoner. However the summoner can summon aspects or "portions" of the primal as their personal summon abilities. That what I meant at least lol

[Quatre]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...oshi+carbuncle

^ regarding summoners inability to summon carbuncle.
I don't know if we ever got an official translation, but that is where all of this hub bub is coming from.

[tobyx]

Yeah i dont think the true primal summoning has anything to do with the summoner. However the summoner can summon aspects or "portions" of the primal as their personal summon abilities. That what I meant at least lol

I understood it the exact same way. I also think this is a good way of dealing with it.

On FFXI, the stuff you summoned would not actually be even remotely as powerful as the stuff you fought before. For simplicity's sake, they looked kinda the same—your summons I mean.

I'm pretty sure that even the essences will look great. It's the most important class from Final Fantasy after all.

[Tonkra]

Yoshi-P was clear when he said only Arcanist will have access to Carbuncle and that Carby will have several uses , as example he mentioned Carbuncle Tank and Carbuncle Healer so in a few words Carbuncle will be FFXIV's Eve from Pokemon.

yoshi p said after a question if carbuncle is the only pet for arcanist he said, that they maybe (<- big maybe) add more in the future

SMN will be a pet class but Yoshi-P is aiming for the old school SMN that called Primal for a 1 hit move then leaves
except this time we will do it with Primal's essence they might look like aether/ghostly forms of them not full body.

I am really afraid about concerning that.. because "one hit" spell is not a pet for me, and not even a petclass. i thought yoshi wanted to cater the petclass fanbase with the summoner.. and not an other type of spell mage.

[Colino]

I am really afraid about concerning that.. because "one hit" spell is not a pet for me, and not even a petclass. i thought yoshi wanted to cater the petclass fanbase with the summoner.. and not an other type of spell mage.

They never said SMN was going to be a pet class in the first place. The only thing they guaranteed was that it'll be based around DoTs.