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    Wow, that's great news! Yoshi-P has shown far more respect for the players than players have for each other. lol

    He never ceases to amaze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    lol I'm aware of what jobs are out there as far as making games. And to tell you the truth, I've always wanted to be a writer/level designer for games. My statement was simply that it would get a bit annoying to have to do PR and deal with a bunch of crybabies that are simply angry that they didn't get what they wanted and are throwing tantrums on forums because of it. I'm sure Yoshi could be doing something better besides soothing a bunch of crybabies, like maybe working on the game. But, you do what you have to do for PR, I guess.
    Yoshi's a smart man. I'm quite sure that if he could do something better, he'd be doing it. He does what he does exactly because he knows that a certain degree of discontent is not unjustified.

    And really, you need to lighten up. You took my post a bit too much to heart. Me thinks you doth protest too much... hmm...
    if people didn't "protest", we wouldn't have ARR.

    I do pinpoint serious PR troubles, because at the moment the game isn't under too much of a spotlight. If something like this big lapse in communication happened nearer to release, when the eye of the media will be aimed at SE for every little mistake, this would be all over the net already, with the potential of doing serious damage.

    People like Brian Ashcraft from Kotaku and many others would jump on the chance to throw some more mud at the Final Fantasy franchise like a bear throws himself at a pot of honey.

    It's not like a lot of the gaming media doesn't already look at SE with a certain amount of negative bias. Can they really afford to take chances and give them ammo on a silver platter?
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    Nice I look forward to testing alpha out soon hopefully ^^
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  5. #545
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Yoshi's a smart man. I'm quite sure that if he could do something better, he'd be doing it. He does what he does exactly because he knows that a certain degree of discontent is not unjustified.
    I'm aware of that. Doesn't mean he doesn't get tired with all the whining every now and then from entitled malcontents, but he does have a lot of patience. Have to admite that.


    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    if people didn't "protest", we wouldn't have ARR.
    I was actually referring to the way you immediately went on the attack after my first post, almost as if you thought I was directly talking about you. Which if you weren't one of the people whining about not getting an alpha invite, it really shouldn't have concerned you so much...

    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    I do pinpoint serious PR troubles, because at the moment the game isn't under too much of a spotlight. If something like this big lapse in communication happened nearer to release, when the eye of the media will be aimed at SE for every little mistake, this would be all over the net already, with the potential of doing serious damage.
    lol I think you're blowing things a bit out of proportion. This is about alpha and people not being happy that they were not selected to get in. That's what it will always boil down to. I know, because I have not read one post from a person who has gotten into alpha that has "concerns with lack of communication". Abd regardless of what communication there is or isn't, there's always going to be someone who's going to complain and whine, like those who believe that being long-time players of FF14 should get them access to alpha alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    It's not like a lot of the gaming media doesn't already look at SE with a certain amount of negative bias. Can they really afford to take chance and give them ammo on a silver platter?
    The media is going to try to trash FFXIV at every given turn anyway. How alpha is done really doesn't matter. In the end, what matters is if the product is good. And trust me, Yoshi is already working on that end.
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    I have to commend Yoshida for being so transparent when it comes to alpha/beta testing this game. The fact that he explains even to non-testers how the process works, not to mention that we've been getting weekly alpha-videos is pretty amazing to me. I've gotten the impression from other games that alpha and even beta is very hush hush.

    Also, it's quite clear that he understands how much we're all dying to try it out, and that he's doing his best to get as many of us in the alpha/beta as possible. It makes me feel very good about the whole deal, even if I might never get an invite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    I'm aware of that. Doesn't mean he doesn't get tired with all the whining every now and then from entitled malcontents, but he does have a lot of patience. Have to admite that.
    When you do his kind of job, you take the good with the bad. He has to face criticism, but also a lot of praise. It's not all that bad.

    I was actually referring to the way you immediately went on the attack after my first post, almost as if you thought I was directly talking about you. Which if you weren't one of the people whining about not getting an alpha invite, it really shouldn't have concerned you so much...
    If you weren't intent on calling people "crybabies", "whiny" and all that, without knowing them or their motives, I wouldn't have chided you. Maybe you didn't notice that your choice of words was confrontational to begin with.

    And being confrontational against people that are already discontent does nothing else than making the situation worse. It does SE or Yoshi no favors when they try to douse the flames and those that think they are on their side throw more fuel on them instead.

    lol I think you're blowing things a bit out of proportion. This is about alpha and people not being happy that they were not selected to get in. That's what it will always boil down to. I know, because I have not read one post from a person who has gotten into alpha that has "concerns with lack of communication". Abd regardless of what communication there is or isn't, there's always going to be someone who's going to complain and whine, like those who believe that being long-time players of FF14 should get them access to alpha alone.
    The problem isn't just that people didn't get access to the Alpha. I couldn't care the less about that.
    It's that people that had active accounts got passed in favor of people that didn't, while the form clearly stated in all available languages that only those with an active account were eligible.

    This is a serious lapse in communication and a potential big PR blunder. People that are discontent about it have a degree of justification in that. It's also the kind of thing the press LOVES to cover, if given the chance. An off-hand accusation of false publicity is great to drive the controversy and the hits on the many websites that don't have journalistic integrity as their most prominent value. And there are many of those and, unfortunately, they're popular.

    The media is going to try to trash FFXIV at every given turn anyway. How alpha is done really doesn't matter. In the end, what matters is if the product is good. And trust me, Yoshi is already working on that end.
    The fact that they already do it isn't really a good reason to provide them with more ammo, isn't it?
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    Last edited by Abriael; 11-28-2012 at 08:25 AM.

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    I have looked around the forums and couldn't find anything on this,so here is my question.

    Will the alpha testers be able to post videos on gameplay/content of ARR?

    Of course i most likely wont get accepted to the alpha , because there are more experienced people in this game than me.However if i do i would like to advertise and show people how good its got since it last released.
    Feedback please,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klyde View Post
    Will the alpha testers be able to post videos on gameplay/content of ARR?
    No. There's a strict NDA in place. Alpha testers aren't even allowed to disclose that they have been accepted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klyde View Post
    I have looked around the forums and couldn't find anything on this,so here is my question.

    Will the alpha testers be able to post videos on gameplay/content of ARR?

    Of course i most likely wont get accepted to the alpha , because there are more experienced people in this game than me.However if i do i would like to advertise and show people how good its got since it last released.
    Feedback please,
    ~Klyde
    When you signed up for the alpha invite / joined through the invite (if you did) you are agreeing to an NDA (non-disclosure agreement). You may not release - anything - that you derive from the alpha unless SE excuses you from the NDA (which they probably wont).

    So best bet is not to unless you want to risk SE banning your account .

    Edit: What Abrieal said :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    No. There's a strict NDA in place. Alpha testers aren't even allowed to disclose that they have been accepted.
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