Zone Lock Petition.

[Nemo5990]

sounds like a solution looking for a non-existent problem

How can you be so sure ? As from what I've read the only time instances will be formed are for event/raid/dungeons.
The 2 hour Live video showed as they were locked out but because the zone was purposely closed. Still it led to him being locked out and there probably isn't a method to get around to the next zone. Was mostly a suggestion if they have not thought of it.

[Zenaku]

How can you be so sure ? As from what I've read the only time instances will be formed are for event/raid/dungeons.
The 2 hour Live video showed as they were locked out but because the zone was purposely closed. Still it led to him being locked out and there probably isn't a method to get around to the next zone. Was mostly a suggestion if they have not thought of it.

I myself don't see it being much of a issue with dungeon finder people can go to any zone and sit there wont be need for /sh and with a better buy/sell/bid system for the ward i don't see people /sh to sell or get people for event.

Also i don't see FFXIV having that many players on a giving time to be honest maybe the world only that noob can enter and once everyone quit and go to the next big MMO release or wow get a update which only take 2-3month then they all leave. Seeing how we also going to have JP,EU,NA servers and most endgame ls would be going to there server close to them that = less players per world.

[Aenarion]

How can you be so sure ? As from what I've read the only time instances will be formed are for event/raid/dungeons.

Because you said "I was randomly thinking what if we get locked out of the zone because of to many players/mobs loaded."

Your entire premise is based upon the assumption that every zone will only support a finite number of concurrent users and will be hard coded to lock players out once that number is reached. An assumption that has no actual material support outside of your assumption, making the whole discussion irrelevant. We might as well be talking about what tactic and strategies we should be using in 2.0 for the Martian Pony Invasion raid.

[Nemo5990]

Because you said "I was randomly thinking what if we get locked out of the zone because of to many players/mobs loaded."

Your entire premise is based upon the assumption that every zone will only support a finite number of concurrent users and will be hard coded to lock players out once that number is reached. An assumption that has no actual material support outside of your assumption, making the whole discussion irrelevant. We might as well be talking about what tactic and strategies we should be using in 2.0 for the Martian Pony Invasion raid.

Who are you again?
It's not an assumption as everything in the world has a limit so point proven. What if there is a popular area and masses of people are there hunting/grinding on all servers then what ? okay bye.

[Aenarion]

Who are you again?

Just a normal guy.

It's not an assumption as everything in the world has a limit so point proven. What if there is a popular area and masses of people are there hunting/grinding on all servers then what ? okay bye.

Sigh, there is a limit to how much traffic a server node can handle, that's not the issue here. Your assumption is that the response will be a preset hard limit to the number of users, which is only one of the many different ways that are used to address these issues (and one of the least utilized).

Other (better) ways to address this includes moving players into an overflow server(node) like in GW2, or like Eve Online where server loads are balanced and extra nodes are used to reinforce areas that are under heavy traffic.

really? they havent even decided what to do and you want to make a petition?

They even stated they would expect the maximum characters in a zone limit would be an extremely rare occurance to hit. Why do you feel the need to petition against something that hasnt been decided and isn't likely to even be an issue?

Well, just look at the forum these days, with all the repetitive endless spawning of F2P/marriage threads, might as well throw a petition for non-issues in, breaks up the monotony.

[Preypacer]

Because you said "I was randomly thinking what if we get locked out of the zone because of to many players/mobs loaded."

Your entire premise is based upon the assumption that every zone will only support a finite number of concurrent users and will be hard coded to lock players out once that number is reached. An assumption that has no actual material support outside of your assumption, making the whole discussion irrelevant. We might as well be talking about what tactic and strategies we should be using in 2.0 for the Martian Pony Invasion raid.

Actually, Yoshi-P has discussed that very issue. There's a translation/summary of info in a thread around here (I'd need to find it), but he specifically says they're considering two options for the possibility of a zone reaching maximum capacity (which seems to be 1000 people). One option is a lock-out, the other is to have a new instance of the zone created for people to go into instead.

As he doesn't anticipate having 1000 people in the same zone as a "normal" thing, they're not sure which would be the best way to go about it and are mulling it over.

So, the OP is bringing up a valid topic. It's a big "what if", but it's something that they still need to account for because it could happen.

Edit: Endigiont found the bit I was referring to. Woo!

[Punainen]

Actually, Yoshi-P has discussed that very issue. There's a translation/summary of info in a thread around here (I'd need to find it), but he specifically says they're considering two options for the possibility of a zone reaching maximum capacity (which seems to be 1000 people). One option is a lock-out, the other is to have a new instance of the zone created for people to go into instead.

As he doesn't anticipate having 1000 people in the same zone as a "normal" thing, they're not sure which would be the best way to go about it and are mulling it over.

So, the OP is bringing up a valid topic. It's a big "what if", but it's something that they still need to account for because it could happen.

Edit: Endigiont found the bit I was referring to. Woo!

:/ They're seriously considering locking people out??? Can you imagine how atrocious that would be during events?

[Preypacer]

:/ They're seriously considering locking people out??? Can you imagine how atrocious that would be during events?

They're seriously considering both approaches, as in - carefully weighing the pros and cons of each system against the cost/difficulty of its implementation compared with the likelihood/frequency of such a thing ever being necessary. As Yoshi's said, it's doubtful that 1000 people in a single zone all fighting or whatever would ever happen "naturally" (as in, without some deliberate planning by players, or a poorly thought out event by the designers/developers).

So, when they say "seriously considering", they mean "looking at all the factors and weighing them heavily against each other". They don't mean "seriously think we're going to go that route". I'd be inclined to think they're leaning more toward an instancing solution - but again, the cost, time and such of implementing such a system could be quite expensive and (and I'm only putting this forth as a possibility, not an inevitability) could set things back farther in order to properly implement and test it. So, it's not a decision to be made lightly.

[MegaMilk]

We might as well be talking about what tactic and strategies we should be using in 2.0 for the Martian Pony Invasion raid.

I would love to start five threads about it!

[Aenarion]

I would love to start five threads about it!

Take charge young lalafell!, go forth where...everyone has gone before! multiple times!!!

At least it'd be more entertaining :P