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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    If you guys think that kicking and screaming over jumping is gonna make him decide to implement radical measures such as limiting jump or removing it, then I'm sorry to say you're delusional.
    You mean like people kicking and screaming over not being able to jump at launch? Then later, due to popular demand they implement a radical measure i.e. jumping. Delusion indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hart View Post
    You mean like people kicking and screaming over not being able to jump at launch? Then later, due to popular demand they implement a radical measure i.e. jumping. Delusion indeed.
    The delusion, good sir, is the notion that they implemented jumping in order to appease the player-base. In actuality, it's considerably more likely that they had better reasons than "people keep whining".

    You, sir, are a good example of this delusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hart View Post
    You mean like people kicking and screaming over not being able to jump at launch? Then later, due to popular demand they implement a radical measure i.e. jumping. Delusion indeed.
    Uhh, now this is an ill-thought argument. They never added jumping in the current version, lol. They didn't make a radical change in the current version, and since 2.0 is started from scratch, adding jump was just one thing of many that is put into the "brand new game".

    It is in 2.0, and the area and terrain is set up for jump to work in. Yes, it would be radical to get rid of jump, because they would have to redo all the maps again to cater to a no jump and delay the game even longer than it is right now.

    Alright, to the "I need a realistic environment" people. I can halfway understand where you come from, but why do we play these games to begin with? Sure we all have our different reasons, but one of the biggest ones are to escape from our own reality for a brief period of time. Why are you so determined to have every small detail be catered to an act of realism? Did we complain in earlier Final Fantasy's for the same reasons? Was Cloud jumping over skyscrapers too much for you?

    The halfway point I understand is you want something or someone you can relate to, which I can respect, but you have to acknowledge something that is in the title itself, "Fantasy". It isn't called Final Reality. I want concepts and things that are out of my world. I want to feel like I am somewhere I can be someone completely different from who I am in real life.

    In short, this is a fantasy game and if they give you the ability to jump on top of a tent, either like it, live with it, or don't play the game. Its there now and we all know it isn't going anywhere, so at this point you are better off finding something else to complain about that you know can change. Alpha test yourself and find actual game breaking bug or mechanics instead of saying "Grass is too green!" or "The sand is too sandy.". Don't continue to beat the dead horse, let it lay to rest already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Who are you? My mother?

    Let people focus on issues they care about. Don't try to police what they should be concerned about.

    That being said, you have a point. It's good to reevaluate the issues that will effect us most as we play the game
    It should be a good sign when the complaints are focused on the asthetics but that dosn't mean these issues are unimportant to our experience. If you don't think it should be taken up as an issue, stay out of the conversation. That's why I only made two posts about the marriage issue. I ultimately think it's a nonissue that we're not suited to tackle, but I wasn't about to ask people not to talk about it.
    dont need to be someone mother to tell others to shut up for their 123412312341th thread of jumping
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    Can't wait for jumping actually... be jumping on my bed all day long...
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    Couldn't be that it was implemented because people whined about jumping since before beta... nah, they just thought it was a good idea.

    Sure.

    You know, its probably not the same thing with the Auction Houses either. Oh wait, we're getting those too.
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    Last edited by Hart; 11-23-2012 at 12:40 PM.

  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hart View Post
    Couldn't be that it was implemented because people whined about jumping since before beta... nah, they just thought it was a good idea.

    Sure.

    You know, its probably not the same thing with the Auction Houses either. Oh wait, we're getting those too.
    Your idea of causality is so limited, it's actually saddening. You're connecting random dots and giving considerably greater credit than is due to the voice of the forum. What's worse, you're not even doing it convincingly.

    You're 2 base arguments are jumping and AHs. Really? Two staple MMO features that pretty much should have been in 1.0, like many other things, but weren't. So they decide, after explicitly having stated that they're studying other popular MMOs, to add in such staples to ARR - and you're idea is that no, they added it because the forums were so adamant about it with the 17348543569 threads they made.

    I can't even read your sarcastic post seriously. The bold part pretty much is the truth. Guess what. That's how Yoshi-P rolls. He thinks something's a good idea, he puts it in.
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    If you're suggesting that Yoshi doesn't listen to player demand and he only does things that he wants to do (most notably jumping and AH), you're being naive.
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    Yoshi-P has been nothing but freaking awesome/amazing. He's a very smart man who's not only listening to fans/player base, but also knows what works and what doesn't in modern MMO. There will always be limitations in technology and for this game.

    For example, the most popular new race that Yoshi had ask to participate on the poll was Viera race (female with bunny ears kinda like mithra whom are a race with only stricting to female) so he would like to add beast like race which is new for an MMO. Which I think is an excellent thinking on his part.
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    Of course he "listens", but let's be real for a moment. He still has the final say and the man is probably a more experienced mmo player than most posters here. If he "listened" to the average poster here (based on Likes), we wouldn't have the free-for-all claim system, inn homepoints, instanced dungeons, jumping, and other non-FFXI features. Far too many people here wanted this mmo to take a step back in time instead of progress into the modern world. Frankly he does what he's gonna do. His plan is laid out months in advance and if we think that our word carries a ton of weight, we're fooling ourselves. The player polls effect his decisions but passed that, less than 1% of crap posted here makes any difference.
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