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[Inzoum]

OMG HOW DID I MISS THIS!?!?!

^Sealing Dalamud ritual on the banner above Minfilla's desk.

I can't say I paid much attention to that then, but this was probably in the game before the whole Dalamud idea came to be, so I highly doubt it initially represented the sealing ritual. The characters inside are "12", and there are twelve staff-like shapes around the circle. To me that's either a symbol representing the Twelve themselves, or just a banner for the Path of the Twelve. This is in Minfilla's office after all.

What is highly possible, however, is that Dalamud's exterior aspect and the sealing ritual's eye candy were imagined in relation to this symbol, giving it a new meaning in the process.

[Warlock]

I can't say I paid much attention to that then, but this was probably in the game before the whole Dalamud idea came to be, so I highly doubt it initially represented the sealing ritual. The characters inside are "12", and there are twelve staff-like shapes around the circle. To me that's either a symbol representing the Twelve themselves, or just a banner for the Path of the Twelve. This is in Minfilla's office after all.

What is highly possible, however, is that Dalamud's exterior aspect and the sealing ritual's eye candy were imagined in relation to this symbol, giving it a new meaning in the process.

Well the possibility of Catapult been right is there lol we don't know how good she is with Echo and she could have witnessed the first sealing ritual.

My own theory is that banner representing the event that awakes our echo power, the star shower from the opening and they conveniently put 12 falling stars to represent the 12 deities

[Inzoum]

My point was that the game designers came up with the Dalamud storyline a long time after this asset was included in the game. Tanaka's vision of FFXIV didn't lead to it being destroyed by the moon's descent. If this was part of the original game before Yoshida took the lead, then it's impossible to attribute this symbol's origins to the sealing ritual that created Dalamud, because that's something Yoshida imagined, not Tanaka. Thus, it has to have another significance: I wouldn't look much further than "represents the Twelve, because this is the office of the Path of the Twelve's head missus"

[Eld_Deran]

This leaves me to wonder about Louisoix. I mean, he talks your ears off. He knows an awful lot about primals and lore, even for a sholar. During the battle with Bahamut he wields incredible power, just look at the size and strength of his shield. He is even able to rebuild the shield while he is getting hit.

Then there is sheer power and MP required for the spell to rip all the adventurers from time itself.

Another thing that puzzles me: When the twelve start to respond to the prayers and their "keys" begin to appear, it looks like Louisoix casts a big glowing "key" into the sky himself.

Who exactly is Louisoix? Can it be that he is a manifestation of Thaliak?

[Warlock]

This leaves me to wonder about Louisoix. I mean, he talks your ears off. He knows an awful lot about primals and lore, even for a sholar. During the battle with Bahamut he wields incredible power, just look at the size and strength of his shield. He is even able to rebuild the shield while he is getting hit.

Then there is sheer power and MP required for the spell to rip all the adventurers from time itself.

Another thing that puzzles me: When the twelve start to respond to the prayers and their "keys" begin to appear, it looks like Louisoix casts a big glowing "key" into the sky himself.

Who exactly is Louisoix? Can it be that he is a manifestation of Thaliak?

I think Louisoix is standing on a big rock that's on-top of the Thaliak symbol ...the one you visit last on "living on a prayer"

[rina_inverse]

*tagging this topic for further reading*

[Teakwood]

I think Louisoix is standing on a big rock that's on-top of the Thaliak symbol ...the one you visit last on "living on a prayer"

Yeah, they've been very careful to leave plausible deniability about the nature of the members of the Circle of Knowing, although several of them can do some fairly ridiculous things (Y'shtola showing up multiple times via the echo, bullet-catching in a Limsa cutscene... not sure if Thancred does anything supernatural other than be unfathomably hot, and Louisoix goes without saying.)

[Gemma]

This leaves me to wonder about Louisoix. I mean, he talks your ears off. He knows an awful lot about primals and lore, even for a sholar. During the battle with Bahamut he wields incredible power, just look at the size and strength of his shield. He is even able to rebuild the shield while he is getting hit.

Then there is sheer power and MP required for the spell to rip all the adventurers from time itself.

Another thing that puzzles me: When the twelve start to respond to the prayers and their "keys" begin to appear, it looks like Louisoix casts a big glowing "key" into the sky himself.

Who exactly is Louisoix? Can it be that he is a manifestation of Thaliak?

http://na.square-enix.com/finalfanta..._end_of_an_era

Was already stated that Loiusiox was just channeling the twelve's power.

"Louisoix quickly conjures a barrier to protect what remains of the Eorzean Alliance, and then begins the arcane rite that will channel the power of the Twelve and focus it into rebinding Bahamut. The sheer force of the primal, however, is too strong for even the Archon, and his efforts fail."

"Realizing the end is nigh, Louisoix summons the last of his strength to call upon Althyk, the Keeper, god of space and time, to send those surviving heroes into an aetherial rift, where they are to remain untouched by the passing of the seasons until it is once again safe to emerge...and continue their struggle to forge Eorzea's future."

[Eld_Deran]

Maybe their proximity to the stones gives them a link, or the Circle has items on them that give them to access the stones of the Twelve, allowing them to draw aether directly from the source instead of using their own MP.

Much like "sa'angreal" from "The Wheel Of Time".

Edit: Oops, posted it before I saw your post Gemma.

[Eld_Deran]

"Louisoix quickly conjures a barrier to protect what remains of the Eorzean Alliance, and then begins the arcane rite that will channel the power of the Twelve and focus it into rebinding Bahamut. The sheer force of the primal, however, is too strong for even the Archon, and his efforts fail."

Archon?!

According to the Urianger Augurelt page:

"However, others claim that he is one of the mythical Archons, incarnations of The Twelve themselves, who appear in times of need."