Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[Arcell]

For the love of all that's good, what the hell happened from last i left and now?! How did you guys go from should a Mithra (F) and a Mithra (F) be able to get hitched in front of an alter in the forest to reproduction? I think we need a time out to rethink the argument.
Q: Should should same gander pixels be allowed to get married!

Agreed. The issue at hand is whether or not same sex marriage should be allowed in Eorzea. Reproduction, and all things associated with it, has absolutely no bearing in this particular discussion.

[Syrokko]

I'm sure SE won't be risking the launch of a game that has already failed once by allowing same-sex marriage and potentially offending a large chunk of potential players that come from a wide range of cultures and religious alignments.

I mean, let's face it...
Nobody is going to avoid this game because it doesn't allow same-sex marriage.
On the other hand, there is a large possibility of a considerable number of prospective players who might avoid the game because they find certain aspects of it to be blasphemous/unethical/immoral and what-have-you.

[Arcell]

I'm sure SE won't be risking the launch of a game that has already failed once by allowing same-sex marriage and potentially offending a large chunk of potential players that come from a wide range of cultures and religious alignments.

Except they've said it likely won't be in at launch so no matter what they do, it won't screw up the launch.

I mean, let's face it...
Nobody is going to avoid this game because it doesn't allow same-sex marriage.
On the other hand, there is a large possibility of a considerable number of prospective players who might avoid the game because they find certain aspects of it to be blasphemous/unethical/immoral and what-have-you.

Actually on the Kotaku article about it I saw a number of people saying they had lost interest in the game or were cancelling their accounts now. I mean in my opinion it's a bit extreme but there ARE people who see this in an incredibly negative light. And, as I've said over a dozen times already, if they simply don't call it marriage then there isn't a problem. You're not going against anyone's beliefs, you're not "blasphemous", you're just giving all players a system to use.

Some people I've talked to have actually said that it wouldn't even be a huge issue if SE didn't make it into one. Had they just said "We're allowing player marriage" and said absolutely nothing about same sex or not, most wouldn't notice.

[Twiddle]

On the other hand, there is a large possibility of a considerable number of prospective players who might avoid the game because they find certain aspects of it to be blasphemous/unethical/immoral and what-have-you.

That about sums up my view exactly, except I didn't want to be that blunt. If "difference in morals" can cause a country(s) to sever ties with another country(s). Making both loose millions in profit, why is it so hard for people to see the potential for back lash for ARR.

Some people I've talked to have actually said that it wouldn't even be a huge issue if SE didn't make it into one. Had they just said "We're allowing player marriage" and said absolutely nothing about same sex or not, most wouldn't notice.

I do agree with you, i don't think SE should have mentioned SS at all, this is a bag of cat's and it's hard to hold with out getting scratched.. It will impact launch, even if it's not in that game at that time i still think it can cause a stink.

[Arcell]

That about sums up my view exactly, except I didn't want to be that blunt. If "difference in morals" can cause a country(s) to sever ties with another country(s). Making both loose millions in profit, why is it so hard for people to see the potential for back lash for ARR.

As I mentioned a few pages back, which countries out of the regions the game supports would have some kind of huge backlash over this? Again going by the main site purely the supported regions are Japan, North America, the UK, France and Germany. Could arguably add in Spain as well.

[Twiddle]

As I mentioned a few pages back, which countries out of the regions the game supports would have some kind of huge backlash over this? Again going by the main site purely the supported regions are Japan, North America, the UK, France and Germany. Could arguably add in Spain as well.

Not the country, the people in it who will play (or not) the game is were the back lash will happen. Over the last little bit i know at least a dozen players in Canada (were SSM is legal) who are keeping an eye on this. And will in fact cancel accounts if it is implemented. While the law may do nothing like you clam, and i know i will not. The players the people who will be paying 15$ a month may not be as lenient. To know that they are playing a game were something they frown upon in possible..

[Arcell]

Not the country, the people in it who will play (or not) the game is were the back lash will happen. Over the last little bit i know at least a dozen players in Canada (were SSM is legal) who are keeping an eye on this. And will in fact cancel accounts if it is implemented. While the law may do nothing like you clam, and i know i will not. The players the people who will be paying 15$ a month may not be as lenient. To know that they are playing a game were something they frown upon in possible..

There are also people who will not buy the game or will cancel their account if it's not implemented, because of the implied stance they are taking on it. They may not explicitly state at stance either way, but both decisions will lose people. So why not choose the one of player equality? Or AGAIN, simply NOT call it marriage?

[RoxyLalonde]

There are also people who will not buy the game or will cancel their account if it's not implemented, because of the implied stance they are taking on it. They may not explicitly state at stance either way, but both decisions will lose people. So why not choose the one of player equality? Or AGAIN, simply NOT call it marriage?

I'm going to have to agree with that portion, mostly cause I have like three sets of couples I'm going to get into 2.0 who are Heterosexual and married but rolling both girl or both boy characters, I ended up telling them about the marriage aspect and housing and what not and they were excited... For me... it just hurts that I'm not allowed to do everything I wanted to do in the game

[Zantetsuken]

Almost 1,250 posts of people making the same points over and over again. (of course nobody is going to read them all)

Let this thread die.

[Twiddle]

There are also people who will not buy the game or will cancel their account if it's not implemented, because of the implied stance they are taking on it. They may not explicitly state at stance either way, but both decisions will lose people. So why not choose the one of player equality? Or AGAIN, simply NOT call it marriage?

At this stage it doesn't matter what you call it. The action performed is were the people will hook on and lean one way or another. So call it what you like, here choose any word you like will not change anything. The thing that SE need to consider, is which choice would cause least loss now that the ball is rolling. Loose 3% or 10% (percentages are for example purpose only). Equality may sound good from a user stand point, not so much from a business point.