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    MArriage first off is a political driven idea, not religious. Nor did the word actually exist in many reglious factions, including any Abrahamic system, until later tranlations.

    In a game. Based on fantasy, what ever it is called, isn't important. Technially Marriage has no religious foundation even if many want to claim it. THe TRUE definition did not men man and woman, but the unity of two unique things for a common bond, such as the marriage of music and poetry.

    In a fantasy game, you can not use real life beliefs and faiths as doctrine, because in many faiths, simply play the game, and paying tribute in a fantasy to other deities is a violation of many doctrines. Remember that first in case you completed living on a prayer.
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    ******* blabla
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 12-11-2012 at 10:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    TODAY you may be right.. but not in the middleage and whenever

    besides that.. in FFXIV you are going to marry in a church

    what does it tell you? it means exactly the same thing what it is meaning in RL. a fantasy scenario like in FFXIV IS the mirror of real life.. why are you making such awkward disctions between game and real life? ;XD



    sorry thats just based on your own thoughts and imagination how marriage in FFXIV is defined..

    how come that yoshi p. says that they are going to go with marriage with the traditional marriage of opposite genders.. and that it is a "complicated" topic (same sex marriage) when marriage in FFXIV is going to mean any different than in real life?..

    sorry but your opinion is just so wrong..
    In a temple, or a church, but it is not your church, that's the first difference. Marriages are a legal binding of one person to another person, weddings are the ceremony, and they don't all occur in a church, some in a park, some in a synagogue , on a boat , a mosque ,or a reception hall, some don't even have priests.

    Second, games do not have to worry about the legal aspects as they are not binding and between avatars, providing only the ceremony. A Las Vegas drive in chapel is more binding.

    The third is that judging on the genders of the avatars or the players will cause cross players to be screwed out of content all because of a "Complicated issue.". An issue that, mind you, was no issue at all in screenshot and cutscenes during 1.0.

    Put it this way, SE has no problem with miqotes being bisexual or talking suggestive behavior with. women, but a dedicated loving relationship is off the table and "complicated"? That's a sorry excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Put it this way, SE has no problem with miqotes being bisexual or talking suggestive behavior with women, but a dedicated loving relationship is off the table and "complicated"? That's a sorry excuse.
    Of course it's complicated*!

    *complicated meaning "no longer solely an avenue for dudes to fantasize about two women getting down with the potential to insert themselves into the equation."
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    Last edited by Obsy; 12-11-2012 at 11:13 AM. Reason: formatting

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    In a game where you can be a RL guy and play in game girl, which often happens, and vice a versa, choosing to play a small creature, a half cat, or beastly Roegadyn, having a debate about same sex marriage is about the stupidest thing ever.

    Player to player marriage no matter the race, sex, or whatever.

    If Vivi and Quina can do it!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrionInerghem View Post
    In a game where you can be a RL guy and play in game girl, which often happens, and vice a versa, choosing to play a small creature, a half cat, or beastly Roegadyn, having a debate about same sex marriage is about the stupidest thing ever.

    Player to player marriage no matter the race, sex, or whatever.

    If Vivi and Quina can do it!!!!!!!!
    I wish people would get this through their heads.

    The very very few people left that dont get it at least.
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    im not against same sex marriage lol ^^ but marry an animal.. sorry.. its called marriage.. and not "friendship ceremony".

    marriage is a normal word which has its definition. When SE is saying they are going to implement a marriage system, everyone should know what it is meant to be.

    Like yoshida stated already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    im not against same sex marriage lol ^^ but marry an animal.. sorry.. its called marriage.. and not "friendship ceremony".
    I don't understand why so many people opposed to "same sex marriage" feel the need to reveal themselves to be closet bestiality folk. Such "pet" urges belong in a separate topic.

    And if someone believes "marriage" has a strict definition, for example, "between a man and a woman", then they should be arguing it has no place at all in a video game, where there are no men, no women, no offspring, and no God as well.
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    I really hate that Zantetsuken has been making a mockery of the subject for so long and people still reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    I really hate that Zantetsuken has been making a mockery of the subject for so long and people still reply.
    I know. I'm sorry.

    The willful ignorance and outright offensiveness makes the blood vessels burst in my head.

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