Post-Dalamud Messages from Yoshi-P!

[Conradus]

Thank goodness about the PC and PS3 players staying on the same servers. Like Yoshida I really can't understand how someone could even suggest to keep em separate. It doesn't make the slightest sense.

Probably because most multiplayer games that are released for both the PC and a console are First Person Shooters. In an FPS, a mouse is a *much* better interface than a game controller, so if you're going to have it on both console and PC you must separate the players because otherwise the PC players would slaughter the console players (Microsoft reportedly confirmed this in test, which is why they dropped plans for cross-platform play in upcoming games a couple of years ago). Of course, in an MMORPG, particularly an MMORPG without free-ranging PvP, this is much less of an issue.

[Tsubarta]

No calendar at launch? That's pretty rough for a game that's boasting enough endgame content to justify scheduling. App is a waste of time; people will just use their LS website to schedule. The only benefit comes from having something to use in-game and is immediately at your fingertips.

I'm curious what happened to chocobo breeding and all that other fun stuff. Someone needs to revive that "Coming in 2.0!" thread and save it for future generations, so we can all go back once the game releases and find what didn't come out or was lost.

The lore stuff is always interesting, I really think one of the biggest mysteries is documenting the war and the battle for silvertear falls - what exactly happened to Midgardsormr and how it factors into everything. Lots of theories after Bahamut was revealed.

[Aerenvel]

No calendar at launch? That's pretty rough for a game that's boasting enough endgame content to justify scheduling. App is a waste of time; people will just use their LS website to schedule. The only benefit comes from having something to use in-game and is immediately at your fingertips.

I'm curious what happened to chocobo breeding and all that other fun stuff. Someone needs to revive that "Coming in 2.0!" thread and save it for future generations, so we can all go back once the game releases and find what didn't come out or was lost.

The lore stuff is always interesting, I really think one of the biggest mysteries is documenting the war and the battle for silvertear falls - what exactly happened to Midgardsormr and how it factors into everything. Lots of theories after Bahamut was revealed.

They already talked about a choco stables and breeding into diff companion classes, Its just not for sure going to be at launch.
Maybe in a later patch, same for stuff like the goldensaucer maybe even chocobo racing or colliseum items gambling casino rides etc. but just think about how much your asking in such a short time frame.
I do not think anything will be lost it is a matter of the time they can devote implementing it there are way more concerns balancing code errors so much stuff.
Besides would you not want them to put it in when they are ready or when you want it.
Cause i dont think you will like it if they are not content with it.

[Tsubarta]

I never expected them to, but I do find it irritating that they basically hyped up 2.0 for over an entire year and marketed staying on for 1.0 as being able to do "once in a lifetime events" that amounted to 10 seconds cinemas and a horrible ending event (trailer notwithstanding, that was uploaded on youtube for free viewing). Fighting primals doesn't count, getting relics doesn't count, jobs, AF...everything introduced in the 1.0 timeframe outside of one boss fight is content you can do or acquire in ARR, and it will probably be a lot more fun to do than it was with 1.0's mechanics.

They've changed their roadmap twice, features expected at launch go silent, now they can't even make time for a mechanic as simple and essential as a calendar (which all major MMOs have). The signs speak for themselves, and there isn't really a Tanaka to scapegoat this time.

I'm withholding my final judgment until I get my hands on the launch build, but it'd be foolish to ignore these things.

[Aerenvel]

I never expected them to, but I do find it irritating that they basically hyped up 2.0 for over an entire year and marketed staying on for 1.0 as being able to do "once in a lifetime events" that amounted to 10 seconds cinemas and a horrible ending event (trailer notwithstanding, that was uploaded on youtube for free viewing). Fighting primals doesn't count, getting relics doesn't count, jobs, AF...everything introduced in the 1.0 timeframe outside of one boss fight is content you can do or acquire in ARR, and it will probably be a lot more fun to do than it was with 1.0's mechanics.

They've changed their roadmap twice, features expected at launch go silent, now they can't even make time for a mechanic as simple and essential as a calendar (which all major MMOs have). The signs speak for themselves, and there isn't really a Tanaka to scapegoat this time.

I'm withholding my final judgment until I get my hands on the launch build, but it'd be foolish to ignore these things.

Sighs trust me everyone who was there at the start feels hesitant but the things they have done in such a short time is undeniable.
Also your basing alot of this info for lack of a better term an abandonded game aside from the learning curve.
Use common sense look at alpha and beta they got a good testing period and they even stated no major issues.
That final event you just need to get over i was booted in the middle of it and couldnt log back in and to be honest i could careless,
more of a stress test then anything Naoki Yoshida apologized for it but he even said that the main reason they are doing a UI is to many unused resourced lack of devotion where needed basicaly.
You really didnt miss much and legacy players he said will recieve legacy awards.
So you complain for nothing aswell he apologized for something he did not even need to cause he warned about it prior.
2. Attention is on ARR all of it basically since last save on 11.1 which is before the last event.
3. Stop complaining about servers being down they are trying to not make a similar mistake which is why alpha beta are going to be long periods.
4 HYPE IT UP IM EXCITED and you should be 2 just post prayers of content or something and maybe one day it will make it. Give them some confidence again at least they pay attention to their fans. VS D3 coming out 3 days later the server was up coming from blizzard to just try to rob the community basing a game around a RMAH.

[Tsubarta]

I'm actually pretty confused at everything you're saying. Sorry, but all I really get from it is that you're frustrated people are justifiably suspicious of another failure. I ask you: where does the faith come from?

[Preypacer]

I never expected them to, but I do find it irritating that they basically hyped up 2.0 for over an entire year and marketed staying on for 1.0 as being able to do "once in a lifetime events" that amounted to 10 seconds cinemas and a horrible ending event (trailer notwithstanding, that was uploaded on youtube for free viewing). Fighting primals doesn't count, getting relics doesn't count, jobs, AF...everything introduced in the 1.0 timeframe outside of one boss fight is content you can do or acquire in ARR, and it will probably be a lot more fun to do than it was with 1.0's mechanics.

They've changed their roadmap twice, features expected at launch go silent, now they can't even make time for a mechanic as simple and essential as a calendar (which all major MMOs have). The signs speak for themselves, and there isn't really a Tanaka to scapegoat this time.

I'm withholding my final judgment until I get my hands on the launch build, but it'd be foolish to ignore these things.

The absence of a calendar at launch is a "sign speaking for itself"? Tanaka won't be there to scapegoat?

Geeze. Hyperbole much?

With everything else they have to focus on to make the actual game stable, solid, fun and consistent, and do it all without the luxury of a typical full MMO development cycle (3-5 years)... you're getting all hysterical over a freaking calendar? Really?

An in-game calendar is hardly a frigging "mission critical" feature in a game. Use your Windows calendar. Use the one in your smartphone (if you have one). Download one. Use an old-fashioned paper one. Use your linkshell's forums to arrange and organize events. There are many perfectly viable and equally reliable avenues you can use. Think a little bit. Be resourceful. What do you think people did before MMOs had calendars built in?

As for things that were listed as features for 2.0 not being in at launch.... welcome to game development and, indeed, software development overall. There's not a developer out there who wouldn't love to have their "features list" 100% complete, implemented and ready for their game or product's launch. Very few actually accomplish it. Why? Because budgets, development schedules, release dates and milestones require trade-offs to be made, things to be post-poned or otherwise re-considered. Unforeseen circumstances arise, requiring things to be brought back to the drawing-board since, as is usually the case, things seldom work as perfectly in execution as they do on paper.

And anyway, can you point me to even a single source where Yoshi-P, or anyone at SE guarantees 100% that everything they mention would be in at launch? Here's a spoiler: You can't. It was never said, because it would be a ridiculously unrealistic thing to guarantee.

As for the 1.0 events being once in a lifetime. They were. It's convenient - and also completely transparent - how you focus on only regular content that everyone's known for months now would be carried over to 2.0, and ignore all of what actually was one-time only - such as the entire story-arc, missions, cut-scenes, and encounters leading up to the finale. That was all "once in a lifetime". No one will ever get to go through that again. If none of that "matters" to you, then that's your own issue to deal with. It mattered to plenty others who appreciated it for what it was and enjoyed getting to be part of it.

If you had some pre-conceived idea of how it would all go down, based on what you wanted it to be, and were disappointed to find that SE didn't follow-suit... Well... again, that's your own issue to deal with. It's not an indication of Yoshi-P not coming through on what was promised many months back. They delivered on exactly what they said they would, to the best of their capability, given what they had to work with.

If you can't appreciate that, or obstinately want to stand there, arms crossed, feeling "they just didn't do enough to satisfy you"... well... again... your problem. But to dismiss all that and make such a remark as you did, over a frigging calendar... how much more petty could you be?

[Huginn]

And we would like to create a brand-new Final Fantasy together with you and all the devs/reps/coffee boys...

maybe the process would go smoother if the players were able to fund a "coffee girls wearing knee high socks" campaign for a while?

on that note, when will we be getting knee high socks as an in game item?

[Nayto]

maybe the process would go smoother if the players were able to fund a "coffee girls wearing knee high socks" campaign for a while?

on that note, when will we be getting knee high socks as an in game item?

We already have, that's the coliseum outfit... >_>

[Aerenvel]

I'm actually pretty confused at everything you're saying. Sorry, but all I really get from it is that you're frustrated people are justifiably suspicious of another failure. I ask you: where does the faith come from?

Ive followed Square since the begining they have created several Masterpieces SEVERAL. I think your lack in confidence is due to your lack of history. Although i have a sense that pretty much all dont have i feel their conviction i see it in their eyes look how strained and tired they are.
They are trying so hard for you and you just dont give them the benefit of the doubt when they could of gave up long ago.
Look at Naoki Yoshida's post they have their limits like I said, you also nit pick at things at matter little nit picking at dates and time, kinda makes you look bad.... sorry...