i hated both those games so if they copy anything from them or clone them then sadly they will fail. those games failed or will fail, there numbers at the start of launch is what made them special, not the mmo itself. it sucked. and ffxiv had them numbers or at least decent ones in box sales ...they lost them all and will not ever probably get them numbers back but even if they do, they will deminish again right away if copy these mmo's.

you can say good parts ...but not much good in them and reality is what they do copy from mmo's is the casual downfall of every mmo. and if anyone white knights those games then why are they here playing ffxiv or on forums for it? you quit already? no kiddin. some people want to live in a mmo for years not months.