FFXIV-- the fear of a WoW Clone is real...

[Orophin]

FF14 doesn't have a talent tree, I think that alone makes it stand apart from WoW quite a bit. The quest based leveling is a rather big similarity though, but I hope SE can vary the quests a little bit more than kill x and gather y. There's only so much you can do when you're making several hundred quests, but one can dream.

[Abriael]

The quest based leveling is a rather big similarity though

It's a standard of nowadays' MMO market.

[Orophin]

It's a standard of nowadays' MMO market.

True, but many people seem like they're going to miss the traditional grind parties for some reason. It pretty much all boils down to the same thing anyway. Either go out and kill hundreds of the same monster to level up, or do quests that require you to kill x amount of things. I don't see why people have a preference of one over the other. The social aspect, or the lackthereof when questing, of it maybe?

[Abriael]

True, but many people seem like they're going to miss the traditional grind parties for some reason. It pretty much all boils down to the same thing anyway. Either go out and kill hundreds of the same monster to level up, or do quests that require you to kill x amount of things. I don't see why people have a preference of one over the other. The social aspect, or the lackthereof when questing, of it maybe?

Some old FFXI fanatics love boredom. Not sure of the reason, though.

[odintius]

I really don't see how this becomes a clone there really nothing alike at all now if you fuss is over UI and functions some things you can't get away from in any game really auto attack/button bashing etc for example every game has some form of these or combination of those. Also some things are for user friendly format making it easier for the players to use or adjust to there liking.
There playing other mmo games to see why there so popular so they can see what kind of things maybe they can bring to the table and maybe improve upon on there own game. Its the player assumption that there going just to copy something which sometimes that isn't a bad thing if their tailoring it to there game functions. To me it how they implement those functions to make it fun unique and story driving for that. Usually what hooks me is the first few hours of game play if design right it can keep players coming back no matter what functions or UI it might have.

Edited: Forgot to mention end game is important as well because allot of people plow threw mmo's like crazy and end up asking ummm what next then demanding content while everyone else is still catching up lol.

[Felis]

Long as the quest progression can be more than: kill X of Y at Z for your standard equipment till endgame where the game actually begins for some reason. I don't give a rat's tail. At least not now. I'm too tired.

Hmm, we have the kill quests like you say
and we have /emote quests, escort quests, "bring me a specific item from a specific place. You need only to kill for self-defense" quests, "go to many places and talk to many NPC" quests, "craft/gather a specific item" quests, "a NPC got missing, go and save him/her" quests.
And some more.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

Long as the quest progression can be more than: kill X of Y at Z for your standard equipment till endgame where the game actually begins for some reason. I don't give a rat's tail. At least not now. I'm too tired.

More than that, sure, but I never understood this complaint. Do you not want battles in MMORPGs? I think you're just tired of MMOs in general, actually.

[Irana]

God I hope its nothing like Fail Wars and WoW....please god make it not be like those two games please

[Preypacer]

A "Clone" doesn't have "similarities". A "clone" is identical.

SE is taking "cues" (I think this is the word you're looking for) from the MMORPG genre, to which their game belongs. not from WoW in particular.

Again, you don't have a point, just like this thread.

So, you enjoy contributing - generously - to pointless threads, then....

Got it.

Here I thought you posted so much because you get off on speaking condescendingly to anyone whose opinions don't resemble your own.

[Jocko]

WoW clone or not, there are modern aspects of MMO's that I find in poor taste and would prefer them not to be included in any title, let alone XIV

Things such as content finders operated within city walls, tiered equipment and raid progression, heavy focus on 'endgame', PvP and PvE skills being balanced together, etc

I feel XIV is coming to embrace these features, and find it a pretty bad move. I'm also saddened by the gameplay refocus, the loss of the slow and deliberate combat in place of what they're giving us (Well, from what I've seen of it anyway)