New Alpha Video

[casker]

The only thing I wish for this game is more Final Fantasy feel.

Part of the Final Fantasy feel for me is pooping on the competition in terms of graphics. Like I said above, utmost quality and artistry, attention to detail. 1.0 did that and was its one saving grace.

Imagine, if you will, that 2.0 sucks. The one saving grace from 1.0 won't be there.

2.0 needs to be better. Not just "good enough." Considering its launch, more than any other game it needs to be more void of weaknesses and deficiencies. And you can say stuff like this is insignificant, but when you're a customer looking at buying one game or another, why would you ever choose low quality over high quality?

Calm down I'm sure the animations are coming. Considering the fact that Yoshi-P has said more than once that the game will not be released until he's 100% confident it's ready.

Not going to give them the benefit of the doubt here. I don't trust them not to screw up and I don't trust this community to keep them from screwing up.

[casker]

Harsh.

Constructive criticism is fine. But parading around with negativity only because you think it's the only way to get the dev's attention seems like wasted energy to me. (see Rokien)

And calling everyone else idiots because they seemingly disagree is just as destructive to your cause.

Didn't call anyone idiots. Called them apologists. And whenever you give SE the benefit of the doubt, that is being an apologist. Telling people not to worry about stuff is not how you get anything changed.

[Denmo]

2.0 needs to be better. Not just "good enough." Considering its launch, more than any other game it needs to be more void of weaknesses and deficiencies. And you can say stuff like this is insignificant, but when you're a customer looking at buying one game or another, why would you ever choose low quality over high quality?

Gameplay vs Graphics argument. That sure got FFXIII a long way, didn't it?

[nibelunc]

Y'all are walking down a dangerous path. A path that leads to the game being crap.

C'mon, it IS just alpha!

You can troll if it's still like this in beta.

Just look forward and don't piss on every detail.
The whole "walking around" does look good and gosh it is not the point that decides if a game is crap or not.
I think I am the only one who liked FFXIV on it's release 2010 just because I got what I expected.
And where is the difference? I played this game 2 years and had fun and was looking forward for every single patch. And you also played the game but were always complaining.
Yeah I am not happy with some things they add to the game but as long as I like the whole game and the devs work to make it even better I can't really complain because of things like this. Just let them do their work, I bet they already took notice about your animation problem.

[IloveYouPumpkin]

Part of the Final Fantasy feel for me is pooping on the competition in terms of graphics. Like I said above, utmost quality and artistry, attention to detail. 1.0 did that and was its one saving grace.

Imagine, if you will, that 2.0 sucks. The one saving grace from 1.0 won't be there.

2.0 needs to be better. Not just "good enough." Considering its launch, more than any other game it needs to be more void of weaknesses and deficiencies. And you can say stuff like this is insignificant, but when you're a customer looking at buying one game or another, why would you ever choose low quality over high quality?



Not going to give them the benefit of the doubt here. I don't trust them not to screw up and I don't trust this community to keep them from screwing up.

I pretty much agree with you though. For me it's always the small things that end up being most important. So the animation thing is actually a big problem imo but I can't see them just leaving such a fundamental thing out and expecting no one to notice or comment on it.

I just don't see Yoshi-P having that mentality if he really wants to resurrect FFXIV.

[casker]

Gameplay vs Graphics argument. That sure got FFXIII a long way, didn't it?

It's not "gameplay vs. graphics." Gameplay is gameplay and graphics are graphics. Gameplay needs to be good. Doesn't mean you should just let your graphic quality atrophy.

[whoopeeragon]

Gameplay vs Graphics argument. That sure got FFXIII a long way, didn't it?

Well, to be honest, both are quite important towards a game. It's just that the priority of gameplay takes a higher precedent than graphics - if the core of a game is unplayable, no matter how good the graphics are, the game isn't worthwhile. Depending on graphics to make a comeback in a case of a failure is folly - there's no point in saving a game if graphics is it's only good aspect. Let them develop more pressing matters and core mechanics first, to ensure the game is playable to it's maximum potential. Then work on animations, graphics, lighting etc., the facade to disguise and hide the mechanics.

The point I'm making is that they ARE improving with each alpha footage they release. From live letter to current alpha footage of Gridania, the animations have already improved. So they aren't ignoring it - it's just not a main core mechanic to deal with at the moment.

[casker]

C'mon, it IS just alpha!

You can troll if it's still like this in beta.

Just look forward and don't piss on every detail.

Why wait to troll? Watch, come beta and the animations are still freekorea2007, people will still be mad at me for trolling the animation.

How about this, if they address it in the live letter I will calm down. Even if they still suck in beta but are fixed later. But if they don't mention it, I will take it to mean they are ignoring it.

[Denmo]

That's what I meant. 1.0's fault was that the gameplay was designed after the realistic graphics were implemented.

You could look at the Alpha footage and see it as though they're doing it right this time. Polish will come, there's still months (6 months possibly!) before this game gets re-released.

[nibelunc]

Why wait to troll? Watch, come beta and the animations are still freekorea2007, people will still be mad at me for trolling the animation.

How about this, if they address it in the live letter I will calm down. Even if they still suck in beta but are fixed later. But if they don't mention it, I will take it to mean they are ignoring it.

Okay, deal!

I am sure they will not just ignore it. They want to make things better and if there is one thing they changed in the past two years and they already proved it, it's that they are taking notice of feedback from the community. At least more than in the past.