New Alpha Video

[casker]

This is sounding like cognitive dissonance to me.

So, the animations suck now, well, animations are stupid and significant anyway! Who needs animations!

When trying to rationalize how to deal with the animations, instead of demanding quality, just say they don't matter.

I think that is sad.

Y'all are walking down a dangerous path. A path that does not lead to the game being the best it could be. A path that leads to the game being crap. A compromise here, a compromise there...

They may have made improvements elsewhere (some of that is up to debate) but that doesn't excuse a massive downgrade to 2007 free korean mmo animation. I expect trash tier from Elder Scrolls Online maybe, but not Final Fantasy.

[Denmo]

They may have made improvements elsewhere (some of that is up to debate) but that doesn't excuse a massive downgrade to 2007 free korean mmo animation. I expect trash tier from Elder Scrolls Online maybe, but not Final Fantasy.

Harsh.

Constructive criticism is fine. But parading around with negativity only because you think it's the only way to get the dev's attention seems like wasted energy to me. (see Rokien)

And calling everyone else idiots because they seemingly disagree is just as destructive to your cause.

Edit: And before you reply, please consider that I do agree with some of what you're saying (after you take away the insulting words) - We should be critical about things we want to see improved. I made a topic saying as much, with an article to boot.

[casker]

Harsh.

Constructive criticism is fine. But parading around with negativity only because you think it's the only way to get the dev's attention seems like wasted energy to me. (see Rokien)

And calling everyone else idiots because they seemingly disagree is just as destructive to your cause.

Didn't call anyone idiots. Called them apologists. And whenever you give SE the benefit of the doubt, that is being an apologist. Telling people not to worry about stuff is not how you get anything changed.

[nibelunc]

Y'all are walking down a dangerous path. A path that leads to the game being crap.

C'mon, it IS just alpha!

You can troll if it's still like this in beta.

Just look forward and don't piss on every detail.
The whole "walking around" does look good and gosh it is not the point that decides if a game is crap or not.
I think I am the only one who liked FFXIV on it's release 2010 just because I got what I expected.
And where is the difference? I played this game 2 years and had fun and was looking forward for every single patch. And you also played the game but were always complaining.
Yeah I am not happy with some things they add to the game but as long as I like the whole game and the devs work to make it even better I can't really complain because of things like this. Just let them do their work, I bet they already took notice about your animation problem.

[casker]

C'mon, it IS just alpha!

You can troll if it's still like this in beta.

Just look forward and don't piss on every detail.

Why wait to troll? Watch, come beta and the animations are still freekorea2007, people will still be mad at me for trolling the animation.

How about this, if they address it in the live letter I will calm down. Even if they still suck in beta but are fixed later. But if they don't mention it, I will take it to mean they are ignoring it.

[nibelunc]

Why wait to troll? Watch, come beta and the animations are still freekorea2007, people will still be mad at me for trolling the animation.

How about this, if they address it in the live letter I will calm down. Even if they still suck in beta but are fixed later. But if they don't mention it, I will take it to mean they are ignoring it.

Okay, deal!

I am sure they will not just ignore it. They want to make things better and if there is one thing they changed in the past two years and they already proved it, it's that they are taking notice of feedback from the community. At least more than in the past.

[whoopeeragon]

Why wait to troll? Watch, come beta and the animations are still freekorea2007, people will still be mad at me for trolling the animation.

How about this, if they address it in the live letter I will calm down. Even if they still suck in beta but are fixed later. But if they don't mention it, I will take it to mean they are ignoring it.

If it's beta and animations are still as they are, I would also be pretty disappointed. So I'll join your cause if that happens. Otherwise, alpha is really to make sure the game is playable first and fore most. Other aspects can slowly make their way in.

Enjoy your meal~

[Denmo]

If it's beta and animations are still as they are, I would also be pretty disappointed. So I'll join your cause if that happens. Otherwise, alpha is really to make sure the game is playable first and fore most. Other aspects can slowly make their way in.

I second this. And would also get mad if the animations do not improve.

[Pretz]

Why wait to troll? Watch, come beta and the animations are still freekorea2007, people will still be mad at me for trolling the animation.

How about this, if they address it in the live letter I will calm down. Even if they still suck in beta but are fixed later. But if they don't mention it, I will take it to mean they are ignoring it.

To be honest, if the animations improve by the time the game goes into beta, then we will have you and the other people who are making this argument to thank. Sure it may sound like negativity, but she's just trying to get the point across. They made it this way because that was their idea for it. If no one disapproves then they have no reason to change it. I'm sure they have lots of other things planned that they would rather spend time doing.

It may seem like you're arguing against everyone, but I support your effort to try make all aspects of 2.0 worthy of praise.

[whoopeeragon]

To be honest, if the animations improve by the time the game goes into beta, then we will have you and the other people who are making this argument to thank. Sure it may sound like negativity, but she's just trying to get the point across. They made it this way because that was their idea for it. If no one disapproves then they have no reason to change it. I'm sure they have lots of other things planned that they would rather spend time doing.

It may seem like you're arguing against everyone, but I support your effort to try make all aspects of 2.0 worthy of praise.

Or you know....that animation upgrade may have been part of the schedule for development before people started to voice their concerns on it? You probably are giving too little credit to the development team for what they have in mind to develop the game on.