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    Quote Originally Posted by casker View Post
    Part of the Final Fantasy feel for me is pooping on the competition in terms of graphics. Like I said above, utmost quality and artistry, attention to detail. 1.0 did that and was its one saving grace.

    Imagine, if you will, that 2.0 sucks. The one saving grace from 1.0 won't be there.

    2.0 needs to be better. Not just "good enough." Considering its launch, more than any other game it needs to be more void of weaknesses and deficiencies. And you can say stuff like this is insignificant, but when you're a customer looking at buying one game or another, why would you ever choose low quality over high quality?



    Not going to give them the benefit of the doubt here. I don't trust them not to screw up and I don't trust this community to keep them from screwing up.
    I pretty much agree with you though. For me it's always the small things that end up being most important. So the animation thing is actually a big problem imo but I can't see them just leaving such a fundamental thing out and expecting no one to notice or comment on it.

    I just don't see Yoshi-P having that mentality if he really wants to resurrect FFXIV.
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    I'd rather sacrifice the animations for a beautiful world and good gameplay instead of the shitty copypasta world we have now. Any of you that actually prefer 1.0 to this must have Stockholm Syndrome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceravic View Post
    I'd rather sacrifice the animations for a beautiful world and good gameplay instead of the shitty copypasta world we have now. Any of you that actually prefer 1.0 to this must have Stockholm Syndrome.
    I wont lose my sleep neither if the animation still the same. I need fun gameplay experience on top of something that I wont notice on battle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceravic View Post
    I'd rather sacrifice the animations for a beautiful world and good gameplay instead of the shitty copypasta world we have now. Any of you that actually prefer 1.0 to this must have Stockholm Syndrome.
    But the char need to be a part of the world with the animation. If the animation sucks, the char would not seem to be part of the world and just looking through a window to the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    But the char need to be a part of the world with the animation. If the animation sucks, the char would not seem to be part of the world and just looking through a window to the world.
    I'm glad this the first video game you've ever played, but there have been many games made before that don't have the best animations, especially ones as minor as "start and stop" animations, and can still be incredibly fun.

    Your priorities are set wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    I'm glad this the first video game you've ever played, but there have been many games made before that don't have the best animations, especially ones as minor as "start and stop" animations, and can still be incredibly fun.

    Your priorities are set wrong.
    I don't mean "start and stop" animation. I mean how the world turn around under the char feets during he standing still instead to turning around with the world. Like he is floating.
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    I've always wanted MMO's to feature seasons. Even if it would be subtle, a change in colours, atmosphere, music,... .
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    I don't think we should be making excuses for this company or just easily accepting whatever excuse they come up with. But I also don't think that the whole game hinges on relitivley small features in the full scope of the design.

    I think the animations do need to be better and we can't just bank on the idea that it -might- change later. The game might not fail if it isn't improved, sure, but I see no reason for quality to suffer in the hands of some of the most skilled artists in the industry. For a game as visually based in reality as this, things like momentum and transition really give your character that extra hook and makes everything feel all the more alive. This isn't a concern to be stifled, but it isn't one to balence your expectations for the total quality of the game either.

    We don't know what's going to happen, so keep those concerns coming, but keep them in check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceravic View Post
    I'd rather sacrifice the animations for a beautiful world and good gameplay instead of the shitty copypasta world we have now. Any of you that actually prefer 1.0 to this must have Stockholm Syndrome.
    Yes, we all know 1.0 was crap-tier at launch. That doesn't excuse the degradation in animation quality though. So yes, in terms of animation, so far, I do prefer 1.0.

    The issues of gameplay and copypasta world have already been dealt with to some degree and are separate issues. Until they come out and say "we had to sacrifice the animation for the gameplay and the world" then I don't know why you'd draw a relationship between them as an excuse.

    Just because I complain about the animation doesn't mean I don't care about the copypasta world or what have you. Complaining about something in 2.0 doesn't inherently mean that I prefer 1.0 overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by casker View Post
    Yes, we all know 1.0 was crap-tier at launch. That doesn't excuse the degradation in animation quality though. So yes, in terms of animation, so far, I do prefer 1.0.

    The issues of gameplay and copypasta world have already been dealt with to some degree and are separate issues. Until they come out and say "we had to sacrifice the animation for the gameplay and the world" then I don't know why you'd draw a relationship between them as an excuse.

    Just because I complain about the animation doesn't mean I don't care about the copypasta world or what have you. Complaining about something in 2.0 doesn't inherently mean that I prefer 1.0 overall.
    Uhh they have said it i'm sure of it and its not only bcuz of that not having those tiny sluggish animations will allow more ppl to enjoy this game with us using less powerful PCs , it will allow 200 characters and 2000 monsters on screen and many more reason.. BIG reasons to get rid of the clunky old system.
    Is hilarious how some say "you can't just stop when running you'll fall over" ..we aren't running for the gold medal in game you just trot
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