SE Please implement a Chonoscroll/PLEX system in FFXIV: ARR

[Abriael]

To many trolls at this point. The facts been brought up countless times and its been gone to blind eyes.

It's unfortunate. I'm starting to be bored, but despite it being dirty work, someone has to prevent misinformation to spread. If it wasn't for that, I would have ignored this thread a long time ago. It served it's purpose. Yoshida-san has viewed has answered, and haters can't undo that.

He'll be the one to judge, and I trust his judgement. So far, it paid in spades.

While a good amount of individuals do understand how plex/chronoscrolls work, I salute you.

Same. Including Yoshida-san. I'm sure.

[Altena]

The reason that RMT is discouraged from games is not for the economy, not because it gives players an "unfair advantage" but for one simple reason - the developers cannot get a slice of this cake, and the game they designed & produced is making other people money.

The sob story of Bill Gates being able to buy a pair of double/triple melded gear because he paid for someone else's whole month of play - and how unfair it is, is quite a pathetic argument. As I already stated in my previous post, Bill Gates could quite easily make another account and bot all that gil. If Bill Gates did this, for a whole month- I'm sure he would earn a lot more gil then what these items would be valued/sold for.

[Ingolf]

but it is pay 2 win bcoz i can get advantage with dollary doos

There are similar arguments going on in the GW2 forums.

[Abriael]

The sob story of Bill Gates being able to buy a pair of double/triple melded gear because he paid for someone else's whole month of play - and how unfair it is, is quite a pathetic argument. As I already stated in my previous post, Bill Gates could quite easily make another account and bot all that gil. If Bill Gates did this, for a whole month- I'm sure he would earn a lot more gil then what these items would be valued/sold for.

Bill Gates doesn't even need to Bot. He can hire 200 dudes and put them to work in a dungeon under the basement of the Microsoft offices to make the biillions for him

Pay zu winz!

[Hart]

Yay selfishness. Luckily the market has long recognized that this stance has no longer a future.

Is it selfish of me to expect someone to earn something through work? If so, yeah. Hell yeah, I'm selfish. If you think you're entitled to something that someone else has to work for, simply because you have more money, you are a blight.

This concept is so absurd that it is comparable with the "Pray to the 12 to keep our special gifts!" thread. You don't deserve anything you don't work for.

[Shougun]

but it is pay 2 win bcoz i can get advantage with dollary doos

There are similar arguments going on in the GW2 forums.

Really? I'd figure most people would know that GW2 was that way. Though in different structure, not a PLEX system.

The likely hood of a f2p going to a p2p play system to remove p2w.. lol


(Also stop mentioning bots Altena.. that is against ToS, just like currently so is RMT)

[Abriael]

Is it selfish of me to expect someone to earn something through work? [If so, yeah. Hell yeah, I'm selfish. If you think you're entitled to something that someone else has to work for, simply because you have more money, you are a blight.

This concept is so absurd that it is comparable with the "Pray to the 12 to keep our special gifts!" thread. You don't deserve anything you don't work for.

I shall reveal a secret that has been passed down from father to son for generations of gamers. It's just for your ears, so don't tell anyone else than your firstborn son when he comes of age:

This isn't work. It's a game.

[Altena]

Is it selfish of me to expect someone to earn something through work? If so, yeah. Hell yeah, I'm selfish. If you think you're entitled to something that someone else has to work for, simply because you have more money, you are a blight.

This concept is so absurd that it is comparable with the "Pray to the 12 to keep our special gifts!" thread. You don't deserve anything you don't work for.

Working in real life isn't work? Hmm, much harder/mindless/boring (most of the time) then "working" in a game. Besides, a game is considered work? wtf am I playing this for?

(Also stop mentioning bots Altena.. that is against ToS, just like currently so is RMT)

Hmm I skipped over about 30-40 pages of people crying about stuff, but from the 10-20 pages I actually read, the RMT card is being played quite a lot - so I feel bots have a place in this argument. I feel this whole discussion is about reducing "illegal" activity, alongside people crying about it being unfair. It is not like people are unaware. Are we all a part of "Fight Club" or something?

My point? The system would not only reduce RMT activity, but also reduce the need/want/care/temptation of people using third party scripts. In saying that, it has actually been confirmed that 2.0 will allow add-on support - which is in fact third party scripting (although limiting I am sure) - is still considered "illegal" in the current game state.

No I do not bot, and do not encourage it/have the desire to use them. I play this game because I want to play it, not some automated program. But yes they exist, and it's a point that shouldn't be ignored.

[Ingolf]

The people who reference MMO's as work are always the first to quit when the gear they got becomes easier to obtain or obsolete.

I remember people QQing about the mog bonanza in XI too, because you got a free relic or mythic out of it.

Or when they'd get mad because someone got lucky with a D.ring with KB or something.

[Hart]

This isn't work. It's a game.

If you don't enjoy playing this game, why are you still here? Eventually you're going to have to work towards something, but as devastating as that sounds. You'll live. Not only will you live, you'll enjoy the fruits of your labor, even moreso than if you bought them with your piggybank. I promise.