SE Please implement a Chonoscroll/PLEX system in FFXIV: ARR

[Ingolf]

The people who reference MMO's as work are always the first to quit when the gear they got becomes easier to obtain or obsolete.

I remember people QQing about the mog bonanza in XI too, because you got a free relic or mythic out of it.

Or when they'd get mad because someone got lucky with a D.ring with KB or something.

[Altena]

The people who reference MMO's as work are always the first to quit when the gear they got becomes easier to obtain or obsolete.

I remember people QQing about the mog bonanza in XI too, because you got a free relic or mythic out of it.

Or when they'd get mad because someone got lucky with a D.ring with KB or something.

The people that think that, still think they are playing XI. There is a lot less grind in this game then there was in XI, to an extent. Sure seals take a while to get if you're a casual player, and sure DL has a low drop rate so either the lucky or the committed obtain what they want, but in comparison to XI, this is much more of a "game" then a "job". Even a casual like myself can make a couple of relics and cap out most jobs. This game is hard bro.

[Altena]

If you don't enjoy playing this game, why are you still here? Eventually you're going to have to work towards something, but as devastating as that sounds. You'll live. Not only will you live, you'll enjoy the fruits of your labor, even moreso than if you bought them with your piggybank. I promise.

The gear worth fapping over will be untradable. Sure there is a possibility there will be a gil element to the questline, noting that it will be untradable - simply proves that there will be a large percentage of it that is done by beating content.

Relics as an example - there are only 2 major gil elements to the path, out of the whole questline. Which truthfully is nothing compared to relics in XI as an example. (The class weapon, and the beastmen coins). If you are about to say Hamlet Defence - that is a big lie, it takes less then an hour to get top 20, and maybe a few weeks to get all of your seals depending on playtime . That being said, both ways have cheaper methods of getting this done - which involves time. People who have that extra time, are usually the ones with higher game time ("hardcores" or people who don't have a job), and the people that don't have that gil have real life money. This gets balanced out with an in-game system as posted in the OP.

To me, the achievement that made me "chuffed" about getting both my relics was definitely not the gil aspect (yes I farmed it like a normal person), but it was the skill/defeating content aspect~ (17min runs/garuda/ifrit). I couldn't care less how people obtain the gil required because I look at a relic and think "cool, they were able to beat the harder game content".

[A_Hortensia]

So basically this is a way to convert real money into gil.

Nice try.

And what exactly would the problem be with that? Do tell.

The dollar isn't the currency of Eorzea.

That's not for you to decide.

Not everything about this idea is bad.
Some people just vehemently dislike the RMT/buying gil aspect of it.
Others also oppose the idea that some play for free while others can not, or want not.

To my surprise, not everyone who plays FFXIV feels that way. Kind of shocking, really.

The reason that RMT is discouraged from games is not for the economy, not because it gives players an "unfair advantage" but for one simple reason - the developers cannot get a slice of this cake, and the game they designed & produced is making other people money.

Um.. but the issue for players really is the unfair advantage; or at least other players playing outside of the rules.

I'm obviously a FF fanboy or whatever, but everything SE has done with XI and XIV doesn't lead me to believe that they'd ever find themselves envious of RMT. All their anti-RMT efforts always seem to me as valid attempts at protecting their customers and their content. That's how I feel.

Someone who thinks purchasing gil with real money is okay, isn't going to understand my passion against it. And I'm not going to suddenly understand their side of it either, I don't think. There's a cultural/philosophical barrier that isn't going to just vanish suddenly.

So debating the issue has proven ineffective. But it's still important for everyone to voice their opinion/concerns. (And not get insulted or mocked for it)

[Chardrizard]

I swear i have been reading the same thing from the same 2 users for the last 62 pages. It's time we agree to disagree, in the end we got a positive devs response and that is what matters.

[Altena]

Meh I have lost interest in this thread. It's going in circles.

TBH I couldn't care less if it was added or not, either way wouldn't affect me. Although I do disagree with some points made against this idea, it has become a big dick competition over who has more brain cells in their empty skulls.

[Ingolf]

There's only one strong point: If you legitimately think this would be damaging to the game (as in, it would damage the economy) you either:

A) Don't understand the original point
B) Have a very limited perspective on the MMO market in general

I'm fence sitting, because I don't think it would necessarily help anything, but to think it would actually damage the economy is stupid.

Also add to the fact, that the people who are going to buy gil are still going to buy it regardless.

[Xandir]

Children, children.

You all need some time out.

Baiting and attacks.

Trolling and "Umad bro"'s.

This thread has truly run its course.

Don't waste your time Thumping the OP's e-peen with bumps, as he has no real point to make.

Don't waste your time dismissing the opposition's comments, as you know deep down you were , are, and will always be right. On any topic in the universe.

I say GOOD DAY.

[Firon]

Only prob i had with the op he states the chart shows how plex lowered the prices of RMT dealing but the full report some linked never states that so I'm still trying to figure out where that came from.

[Abriael]

Only prob i had with the op he states the chart shows how plex lowered the prices of RMT dealing but the full report some linked never states that so I'm still trying to figure out where that came from.

The report states that the graph starts one week after the release of Game Time Codes, which are the first iteration of the PLEX concept.