SE stop doing the "norm"

[Velhart]

I am satisfied with it.

Was it wrong of me to say that?

[Starlord]

I am satisfied with it.

Was it wrong of me to say that?

Most likely, Since we are satisfied with it, were probably going to get called white knights, defenders, Losers for liking it etc etc. :/.

[LlenCoram]

Most likely, Since we are satisfied with it, were probably going to get called white knights, defenders, Losers for liking it etc etc. :/.

You forgot fanboy/fanboi

[Starlord]

You forgot fanboy/fanboi

AND THAT! God these day in age people have a wacky way of calling someone a loser :P.

[PinkiePie]

You forgot fanboy/fanboi

I'll just call you what you are, lower tier.

[bobbygunz]

Most likely, Since we are satisfied with it, were probably going to get called white knights, defenders, Losers for liking it etc etc. :/.

Im not going to call you names. I just wanted you to admit it, which you seem to have done, finally.

Was it really that hard? You know, you could have saved everyone a lot of effort and admitted it to begin with rather than being in denial and asking for "sources" etc.

Thankfully now I can see there is a level of awareness, though. In the future, stop being in denial because it's actually just really annoying and makes me have to spell everything out for you constantly.

[Velhart]

Im not going to call you names. I just wanted you to admit it, which you seem to have done, finally.

Was it really that hard? You know, you could have saved everyone a lot of effort and admitted it to begin with rather than being in denial and asking for "sources" etc.

Thankfully now I can see there is a level of awareness, though. In the future, stop being in denial because it's actually just really annoying and makes me have to spell everything out for you constantly.

This is how you define ignorance and arrogance in one post. What is exactly in denial? We are not saying that 2.0 will be successful, we have no way of determining that as you have no way of knowing that it won't be successful. We can say however that it has known successful features to it that definitely gives it the potential to be a success. Where is your time machine that let you travel in the future and fully determine how this game is going to turn out? I would love to get in that machine because I am tired of waiting for this game.

So far all I see in your argument is "WoW Clone". You truly believe this alone is what will destroy it? There are plenty of successful MMO's that use the MMO standard formula with success. Don't have the numbers WoW does, but at this point it is almost impossible for other companies to get to those numbers, especially with the amount of MMO's coming out, players are spread out. WoW was there at the right place at the right time with the right brand.

Its all about taking unique approaches within a familiar system. This is what hooks your hardcore audience, and your new players in. FFXIV's unique approach (so far) is it's Armory System and PS3 cross platform. While DC Universe Online got to that first, there are simply not many console MMO's out there, already making it appealing to those who don't have PC gaming machines, but still love online games and Final Fantasy. Actually one of the biggest reasons FFXI was such a success was that it was on the PS2 platform.

We don't know what else the game has in store for us. We really have gotten the bare minimum of information and videos only show tid bits of the battle system, we don't know it's full potential nor does it show how we interact with large scale combat.

Since it uses the WoW UI configuration doesn't mean it will do everything they do. I look at it as using successful and much needed traits of the genre itself to help bring out a unique experience.

In short, play the game before judging it. Being cynical to a game not even in alpha stage yet isn't really giving it a fair chance.

[bobbygunz]

What is exactly in denial?

Okay, allow me to explain. In the course of this thread, many people (*cough* starlord) denied SE's game design principle which states that FFXIV will try to standardise and standardise alone. To think otherwise was something tantamount to denial since the developers have basically stated that's all they will do with ARR on release, to which I provided evidence corroborating this. That's what I meant by denial.

I don't mean to crush people's expectations/dreams, I was just reproducing statements made by developers. Don't shoot the messenger.

We are not saying that 2.0 will be successful, we have no way of determining that as you have no way of knowing that it won't be successful. We can say however that it has known successful features to it that definitely gives it the potential to be a success. Where is your time machine that let you travel in the future and fully determine how this game is going to turn out? I would love to get in that machine because I am tired of waiting for this game.

It has potential to succeed. Sure. And true no one has a time machine. But doesn't it therefore have potential to fail too?

Yoshi once said that he believes MMOs are like themeparks, the reason his might fail is because it has only 2 dated attractions. That was the crux of my point. That it's not trying to stand out. Beyond things we had at release of 1.0 (like the armory system, crafting systems) SE just aren't pushing boundaries.

Neptune once suggested that SE should be a market leader, rather than a market peer. And I feel like that just needs repeating. All SE are doing is resting on their laurels, imitating WoW, and while I don't think that alone will make it fail, just copying WoW's features might not bode so well and kind of reeks of a lack of ambition.

In short, play the game before judging it. Being cynical to a game not even in alpha stage yet isn't really giving it a fair chance.

I haven't given the game a rating out of ten yet, I was just expressing concern over their lack of ambition.

[Velhart]

I haven't given the game a rating out of ten yet, I was just expressing concern over their lack of ambition.

If completely rebuilding a game from the ground up from a previous failed installment is not considered ambition, then I don't know what is.

Let people believe what they want, because no one can make a fair statement towards 2.0 until they get actually start playing it.

[Firon]

If completely rebuilding a game from the ground up from a previous failed installment is not considered ambition, then I don't know what is.

Let people believe what they want, because no one can make a fair statement towards 2.0 until they get actually start playing it.

Just stop talking him all he does is talk out of his ass he does the same thing in game. He just talks out of his ass. Best to ignore him.