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    Player Denmo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    No, classes having too many skills and not having any definition came from players first, so was auto attack. Just about every change to the original game systems that were made came from threads buried under back to probably page 1000 and beyond by now of general discussion.

    It was all due to one question in the first major players poll : "Would we be ok with drastic changes made to Eorzia" or something along that line.
    We did have choices, but ultimately it was Yoshi's directions that had the last say. And he didn't always listen to the forums. Like how "everyone" was against jumping.

    It's kinda short-sighted to make such a blanket statement and place all blame for whatever's 'wrong' with the game on "the players". But I guess if you feel like you want to stand out as the guy who, "was against this all along! You should've listened to me but did you all? Nooooooo you just wanted your happy-go-lucky-dappy-and-ducky game! Thanks for ruining my experience! YOU ALL SUCK", then please go right ahead. I'm sure SE will listen and give an appropriate response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denmo View Post
    We did have choices, but ultimately it was Yoshi's directions that had the last say. And he didn't always listen to the forums. Like how "everyone" was against jumping.

    It's kinda short-sighted to make such a blanket statement and place all blame for whatever's 'wrong' with the game on "the players". But I guess if you feel like you want to stand out as the guy who, "was against this all along! You should've listened to me but did you all? Nooooooo you just wanted your happy-go-lucky-dappy-and-ducky game! Thanks for ruining my experience! YOU ALL SUCK", then please go right ahead. I'm sure SE will listen and give an appropriate response.
    You may think its a short sighted statement, but its a true statement. People just aren't careful what they wish for. It wasn't just one person saying 'this should be like this', it was a collection of all feedback from all language forums and polls that became what we have now. We pushed them into that direction through feedback.
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    Player Denmo's Avatar
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    While I do enjoy the fact that they did listen to the players in remaking the game, I also recall a certain post by Yoshi saying many of his decisions were based on creating a game that wasn't just for those currently playing. He wanted to make a game that would attract and bring back people who aren't currently playing and/or interested.

    We did have some say. But we're not the Producer. You give these forums way too much credit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denmo View Post
    We did have choices, but ultimately it was Yoshi's directions that had the last say. And he didn't always listen to the forums. Like how "everyone" was against jumping.

    It's kinda short-sighted to make such a blanket statement and place all blame for whatever's 'wrong' with the game on "the players". But I guess if you feel like you want to stand out as the guy who, "was against this all along! You should've listened to me but did you all? Nooooooo you just wanted your happy-go-lucky-dappy-and-ducky game! Thanks for ruining my experience! YOU ALL SUCK", then please go right ahead. I'm sure SE will listen and give an appropriate response.
    It still makes me laugh when I read that some people are actually against jump in a MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lirion View Post
    It still makes me laugh when I read that some people are actually against jump in a MMO.
    ive played alot of MMOs.. and the only use ive seen for jump was for 2 people to jump around in pvp like mating mosquitoes. it dosent help you avoid dmg, it dosent help you deal dmg. it dosent make you faster (dunno why people think this) it dosent let you reach new areas faster (those areas are unreachable in that direction by design)


    actually i take that back.. in WoW playing hunter, you could jump, turn around, shoot and arrow and turn -back- around and not lose your momentum. so fine, 1 use for jump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanabira View Post
    ive played alot of MMOs.. and the only use ive seen for jump was for 2 people to jump around in pvp like mating mosquitoes. it dosent help you avoid dmg, it dosent help you deal dmg. it dosent make you faster (dunno why people think this) it dosent let you reach new areas faster (those areas are unreachable in that direction by design)


    actually i take that back.. in WoW playing hunter, you could jump, turn around, shoot and arrow and turn -back- around and not lose your momentum. so fine, 1 use for jump
    In this game there are obstacles on the road that would be easier to avoid if you could jump over them. And if you don't like the /jump feature don't use it.
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