New Job System Incoming!!! - But what does this mean??

[Anathiel]

Dude you joking right? so you want a dumbass tree system? or a job that you can unlock and be the same level as your class as soon you unlock it? the point of games is to grind then to do endgame i'm sorry but if you can't put yourself to grind then you should not be playing MMO. In FFXI you had 18 class and all the one you unlock where level 1 not level 30.

I'm going to wait and see with he does but if he make it into a wow tree system then it just going to be the same game as wow matter how hard you try to change the system. I hoping he going with the unlock a job within your own job and level it up. if you want to go back to Pug which is level 50 and get that 75 then you can you don't need to level up a job if you don't want too.

let's just wait for more info at this point there really noting to go by.

Hey man go read carpe's job thread, jobs on top of spec's and see if that is something you would like. Posting in here isn't doing you any favors, nobody's on your side right now because these arguements have already been fleshed out. The dev tag is 1033.

[Kurokikaze]

Dude you joking right? so you want a dumbass tree system? or a job that you can unlock and be the same level as your class as soon you unlock it? the point of games is to grind then to do endgame i'm sorry but if you can't put yourself to grind then you should not be playing MMO. In FFXI you had 18 class and all the one you unlock where level 1 not level 30.

I'm going to wait and see with he does but if he make it into a wow tree system then it just going to be the same game as wow matter how hard you try to change the system. I hoping he going with the unlock a job within your own job and level it up. if you want to go back to Pug which is level 50 and get that 75 then you can you don't need to level up a job if you don't want too.

let's just wait for more info at this point there really noting to go by.

You've essentially added more classes to the game and fixed NOTHING with the current ones. Congratulations.

[Cairdeas]

Yes brilliant. Discuss its effect and who should obtain it in an MMO by comparing it to offline games that didn't have class systems.

Dumbest argument ever. Seriously.

I discussed how the effect worked in other games to prove that the single player FF's had a Tanking Mechanic.... You are just trying to put words in my mouth and cause a fight.

[Abriael]

Being able to tank better doesn't count then?

Considering that Dark Knights have never been able to tank better than paladins in FFXI, it counts.

[solracht]

Considering that Dark Knights have never been able to tank better than paladins in FFXI, it counts.

The fact that you played the game wrong does not make it any less true.

[Abriael]

The fact that you played the game wrong does not make it any less true.

Just lol. Yeah, me and basically everyone else it seems. In FFXI a DRK that introduced himself as a tank would be laughed at and sent back to the mog house to get that two hander while the group looked for a PLD or NIN.

Dude you joking right? so you want a dumbass tree system? or a job that you can unlock and be the same level as your class as soon you unlock it? the point of games is to grind then to do endgame i'm sorry but if you can't put yourself to grind then you should not be playing MMO. In FFXI you had 18 class and all the one you unlock where level 1 not level 30.

Again, you're advicating nothing else than a massive grind. I *already* grinded plenty.

[Zenaku]

You've essentially added more classes to the game and fixed NOTHING with the current ones. Congratulations.

The class are the base

Class--> Jobs i can see where this could have problems but starting back from 1 could piss a lot of players. but what if a lot of players like the class? and you making them switch to a job at 50?

Conj rank 50 now you have to become a whm or a blm what if i want to be both? unlock sch? and be level 50? i guess that be ok as long as they make it so when your 50 you feel like your level 1 but your still 50 but learning your way up.

i wont made if you start from 1 or 50 as long as they don't pick the tree base system.

@Abriael so did i this is my 3reset i Level up Pug x2 times to level 40+ starting over and waiting for the new system so it make me feel that am playing a new game.

[Cairdeas]

A title system that has no major level grinding system is simple enough and requires no overbalancing in the long run because the bonuses it gave would be based on the skills you equipped which you would still learn from the weapons.

[solracht]

Just lol. Yeah, me and basically everyone else it seems. In FFXI a DRK that presented himself as a tank would be laughed at and sent back to the mog house to get that two hander.

Endgame. The paladin that presented himself to the team would be sent back to his mog house to change jobs (not necesarily to DRK) if their group cared about efficiency and low-manning.

[Cairdeas]

The class are the base

Class--> Jobs i can see where this could have problems but starting back from 1 could piss a lot of players. but what if a lot of players like the class? and you making them switch to a job at 50?

Conj rank 50 now you have to become a whm or a blm what if i want to be both? unlock sch? and be level 50? i guess that be ok as long as they make it so when your 50 you feel like your level 1 but your still 50 but learning your way up.

i wont made if you start from 1 or 50 as long as they don't pick the tree base system.

@Abriael so did i this is my 3reset i Level up Pug x2 times to level 40+ starting over and waiting for the new system so it make me feel that am playing a new game.

You are Mixing the two systems as if a Pug Becomes a Monk which is most likely now how the system will work instead it is most likely going to work like the Subjob system from previous FF's where your Main Identifier is your Weapon Class, and your Sub Identifier is your Job Title. So a Pugilist/Monk. Only thing you'd be raising levels on would be Pugilist. Monk would never go up or down and instead dictate the bonuses you got for the skills you had equipped and how effective they were. Each skill having an Affinity to a certain Job Title.