New Job System Incoming!!! - But what does this mean??

[Jericho]

I don't agree that a gladiator is a "sword user" and an archer is a "bow user", regardless of what the translations say or what those words "mean". My job is an archer, and I am limited to bows. The level of my job determines my skills and hp and mp and def and eva and acc and everything else that makes you able to hold your own in a higher setting. In a literal sense, how well I use a bow should have nothing to do with my hp. I don't want to feel like I'm leveling up weapons. That doesn't feel like FF to me. I want to level up jobs, and use weapons, whether I am limited in my weapon selection or i have every weapon available. It just doesn't feel right.

[Cairdeas]

I don't agree that a gladiator is a "sword user" and an archer is a "bow user", regardless of what the translations say or what those words "mean". My job is an archer, and I am limited to bows. The level of my job determines my skills and hp and mp and def and eva and acc and everything else that makes you able to hold your own in a higher setting. In a literal sense, how well I use a bow should have nothing to do with my hp. I don't want to feel like I'm leveling up weapons. That doesn't feel like FF to me. I want to level up jobs, and use weapons, whether I am limited in my weapon selection or i have every weapon available. It just doesn't feel right.

Inversely Rangers are not limited to bows, Guns, crossbows, or throwing weapons though.

[Jericho]

Inversely Rangers are not limited to bows, Guns, crossbows, or throwing weapons though.

They are not traditionally. But it wouldn't bother me or, eventually, what I speculate as the majority of everyone else who plans on using a bow as a ranger.

[Cairdeas]

They are not traditionally. But it wouldn't bother me or, eventually, what I speculate as the majority of everyone else who plans on using a bow as a ranger.

I always used guns and Xbows as ranger so if it was limited to bows. especially after a Crossbow or Gun Weapon class was Released, I'd be a little upset. I don't think we need a system that segregates one part of the Job system from one part of the Armoury System and instead they all can mesh in what ever pattern you want. Some might not be effective as others but thats up to the players to decide not the developer at that point.

[Jericho]

I always used guns and Xbows as ranger so if it was limited to bows. especially after a Crossbow or Gun Weapon class was Released, I'd be a little upset.

Okay, I'll bite. Where I have trouble with your system is feeling like the titles really don't mean much. A few ranks/abilities as time goes on... I want it to mean more than that, more than the weapon class does. A high ranking ranger should not have to start from black brush in order to start using a gun.

Okay, the more I'm talking about it the more I'm starting to feel it. Maybe it would be okay.

Of course, the decision has already been made.

[viion]

probably got mentioned but "weapon type" doesnt really mean anything even now, a weapon has a class aligned to it and your class is defined by the one stated on the weapon, you can use two-handed staffs or wand/clubs on both conjurer and thaumaturge, its just the class is decided by what they choose for that weapon, even if both weapons are of identical type.

But i agree it is most likely a topper system, so you pick a class and then you can have any weapon on it. like XI.

[Cairdeas]

probably got mentioned but "weapon type" doesnt really mean anything even now, a weapon has a class aligned to it and your class is defined by the one stated on the weapon, you can use two-handed staffs or wand/clubs on both conjurer and thaumaturge, its just the class is decided by what they choose for that weapon, even if both weapons are of identical type.

But i agree it is most likely a topper system, so you pick a class and then you can have any weapon on it. like XI.

The Equipped item for Conjurer and Thaumaturge are the Focus, their real weapon is their Delivery of magic which is Circle or Cone AOE respectively.

[Jericho]

The Equipped item for Conjurer and Thaumaturge are the Focus, their real weapon is their Delivery of magic which is Circle or Cone AOE respectively.

No... Their equipped items are staves, radicals, and scepters. Traits of the Thaumaturge and Conjurer JOBS (which are limited to those weapons) are the shape of their AoE casting.

I'm sorry, but you don't work for SE, you don't have a time machine, and I highly doubt you are some type of spy... You can speculate but there's no way you know exactly what SE was intending when they created the armoury system. It could very easily just mean "one weapon per job", which could be a big failing point to a lot of people.

I mostly like you, I like a lot of your ideas, and part of me wants to get behind them, but you really come across as too forceful with your opinions. Your opinions are not facts.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

I don't care if they completely gut the existing classes I have ranked and turn them into jobs. I just worry about my Final Fantasy feeling like a Final Fantasy.. which it seems more and more geared towards with these little bits of information. Although, I will have to say this isn't a complete shock that they are going in this direction. It was hinted at long before now, but still exciting that it's confirmed to still be full steam ahead.

I highly enjoyed Kuro's ideas on the subject and I hope the Development Team is roughly on the same page. Cheers, guys!

[Kurokikaze]

This just got really funny really fast.

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Popcorn time!