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  1. #551
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    Soukyuu's Avatar
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    Crim Soukyuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by moriandrio View Post
    Cause it's not, as long we don't know about the restrictions this is a point that some ppl think about. Maybe you like to run around like a clown or don't care when you run a dungeons with ppl looking like clowns. Only thing that is tired is that ppl are against a toggle and don't have an argument other then "Cause I don't want you to get a toggle"
    If you don't like to run around like a clown, you should be pro-vanity, not against. My argument against the toggle stands, whether you like it or not. If you want to interpret it as me not wanting you to have a toggle out of spite, so be it.
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  2. #552
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    moriandrio's Avatar
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    Mayoi Hachikuji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    If you don't like to run around like a clown, you should be pro-vanity, not against. My argument against the toggle stands, whether you like it or not. If you want to interpret it as me not wanting you to have a toggle out of spite, so be it.
    So you don't have an argument against it (just not wanting it is no argument that counts) and you have not pointed out why it should be impossible ppl will abuse the system.

    Either a toggle or very strict restriction are needed. The Reasons have been posted many times...
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  3. #553
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    Velhart's Avatar
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    So, uhh, my last post....not even a nibble? lol

    Should I say....typical FFXIV community?
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  4. #554
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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    I have a hard time telling brown from Red...

    and blues and purples...

    and dark blue sox with black sox :c
    I feel you're pain. i have the same issue with certain shades of various colors
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  5. #555
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    No, it's none of your business how my character looks on your screen, actually. I'm the one paying for it, not you. Or are you offering to pay for me?
    It's actually none of your business how you look on other peoples screen. None of what appears on someone elses screen is your business. You didn't pay for their computer, game, subscription, internet service. My original comment remains, you're being pretty imposing here. I still see no rational argument against a toggle.
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  6. #556
    Quote Originally Posted by Rubyxiii View Post
    It's actually none of your business how you look on other peoples screen.
    This. You do know if you play a female character a lot of the times you're bare ass naked on some lonely kid's screen, right? You can't control how others view you.

    I still see no rational argument against a toggle.
    You won't find one either, except for the people who are trying to force something on you but will cry to mommy SE that you're trying to force something on them.
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  7. #557
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    Firon's Avatar
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    Firon Veleth
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    I want a toggle for Highlanders cause they are ugly and also Male lala's i hate their faces SE can i haz please?
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  8. #558
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    Gardthorne's Avatar
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    Vanas Genei
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by moriandrio View Post
    I just don't want my game experienced to be fucked up just cause ppl think they need to dress up like clowns cause they dont need to care about stats anymore.
    Why do people continue to make this argument? Do you not play the game right now? This is exactly what we currently have because people care about stats and not the other way around.

    The artists are not involved with placing stats on items, does everyone understand this? Unless SE goes the way of tiered gear (and perhaps even not then) your armor will never match unless you intentionally gimp yourself. With no vanity/appearance/remodeling system you will always have to pick between looking terrible or being terrible at the game.
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  9. #559
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    Teisha Linne
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardthorne View Post
    Why do people continue to make this argument?
    Because IMMERSHUN
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  10. #560
    Player Azurus's Avatar
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    Amras Cerberus
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    Ok what about an idea of like aetheric transmutation? We give crafters the ability to break down and extract the aetheric essence of armors under their jurisdiction and transplant that essence in to other pieces of similar gear. This gives reasoning and lore to vanity, keeps crafters relevant, if not increase their desirability, and makes it so that you are wearing what it says you are wearing to appease to the realism crowd.

    Restrictions are passively placed due to an aetheric essence being able to only meld into similar gear. Like plate to plate for example. I feel like this is a decent way to appease everyone AND make it lore relevant while preventing the dreaded yukata tanks look
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