[Suggestion] Fashion/Vanity Slots.

[Reika]

Vanity would make assuming materia MUCh harder - right now I see a BLM wearing felt gaskins I'm pretty damn sure he has that baby melded. Otherwise he wouldnt wear it, he would be wearing his AF.

Vanity destroys item expectations. Now I really do have to check you just to see your real gear.

Its illigoical even under a fantasy aspect. "I want to wear the gear I am not wearing". What? No.

If the system is free, people will run around in the silly costumes meant for town fun and use them for combat. If you can kill a boss with seasonal gear right now you are bad freaking ass. With vanity it will happen all the time - be meaningless, and be retarded.

So you will assume they have double melded felt gaskins because they are wearing felt gaskins, but will not assume they ware wearing felt gaskins when a robe is completely covering their pants?

[Elexia]

These aren't even important to people who are for toggle. They just don't want to have to gear check people, like they aren't going to do it anyways if they did add a toggle..

Interesting, wasn't aware this was my thought process.

if someone wound up in your content ma party wearing a subliger and a halfrobe, it wouldn't matter because they obviously have the Ilvl to enter that dungeon through content matching.

You assume the system will work exactly like that. SE may have a completely different take on it.

Some people just dont want to look like every other damn person playing the class/job they play

That's fine, however with a toggle I can choose to see your vanity gear or not and it shouldn't bother you.

[Jinrya-Geki]

I am confused by something about people not wanting to see a caster in heavy armor.

What MMO, besides The final fantasy series, doesn't have a white mage/cleric/priest type in heavy armor? And not being good with maces of some kind?

[NoctisUmbra]

I am confused by something about people not wanting to see a caster in heavy armor.

What MMO, besides The final fantasy series, doesn't have a white mage/cleric/priest type in heavy armor? And not being good with maces of some kind?

This is the Final Fantasy series... last I checked they were trying to make FFXIV feel more like a FF game, not less.

You may have had an argument there, but you totally did it wrong.

[Elexia]

This is the Final Fantasy series... last I checked they were trying to make FFXIV feel more like a FF game, not less.

You may have had an argument there, but you totally did it wrong.

It goes right back to what some people have said about those that play XIV don't care it's a Final Fantasy game, they want another typical MMORPG.

[Jinrya-Geki]

This is the Final Fantasy series... last I checked they were trying to make FFXIV feel more like a FF game, not less.

You may have had an argument there, but you totally did it wrong.

I know, but it shouldn't be too odd to see a white mage at least to be in heavy armor.

[Rubyxiii]

I still haven't seen a single intelligent argument against a toggle. Why is this still an argument? I can't imagine a rational person being upset if the vanity feature with toggle was implemented. At this point I'm convinced anyone still arguing is simply trolling.

[Zantetsuken]

I still haven't seen a single intelligent argument against a toggle. Why is this still an argument? I can't imagine a rational person being upset if the vanity feature with toggle was implemented. At this point I'm convinced anyone still arguing is simply trolling.

(Toggling off vanity slots allows you to see what they are really wearing.. and you might not invite them to a party.)

-shhh (' þ ' )

[Soukyuu]

I still haven't seen a single intelligent argument against a toggle. Why is this still an argument? I can't imagine a rational person being upset if the vanity feature with toggle was implemented. At this point I'm convinced anyone still arguing is simply trolling.

The idea of the vanity system is to allow people to wear what they want and display it to other people without having to sacrifice stats. Giving a toggle option for someone else's vanity display is negating the basic idea of the system.

It's really ridiculous how people are fixed on the idea vanity will be abused to run around naked/in seasonal gear.

Claiming vanity breaks realism in a fantasy game is not any better either.

[Shougun]

The idea of the vanity system is to allow people to wear what they want and [b]display it to other people[b] without having to sacrifice stats. Giving a toggle option for someone else's vanity display is negating the basic idea of the system.

It's really ridiculous how people are fixed on the idea vanity will be abused to run around naked/in seasonal gear.

Claiming vanity breaks realism in a fantasy game is not any better either.

Its not that just being abused it also is not the gear you are wearing >.>

If you are hitting like a truck with a weathered spatula there is a problem.

You want to wear the gear you want without the repercussions. You want to force us into doing what you want, but you think its stupid that we want to be able to turn it off on JUST our side and let you continue to look the way you do.

You " I want to wear what im not wearing, I want everyone to see it"
Toggle Button " Ok, I dont want to see it - but go ahead for yourself"

I only see one unreasonable expectation here.

This is a fantasy game with a strong connection to realism. That has always been SE thing. Japanese plausible reality. They create almost crazy fantasy world you can escape into because of the seeded realism. Wearing what you are not wearing is not plausible in any idea.