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  1. #411
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    You know, I could wear reindeer as my normal gear and high lvl coatees/crafting gear as my vanity gear...you know, If I intended to screw with you.
    Oh I'm sure many people will use the vanity system to screw with others.

    Hence the need for a toggle.
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  2. #412
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    It's definitely going to be limited in some fashion. I'm making suggestions as to how. If you sit and think about it, you can come up with much more annoying limitations... and considering Yoshi's mention of certain class/job gear being iconic and serving a purpose as to display what that person is on, and how it'd be ridiculous in PVP environments then some form of limitation is necessary.

    If there's no limitation, the vanity system will become almost entirely pointless when everyone toggles it off due to being sick of seeing reindeers in endgame battles, or mages wearing DRG AF, etc.

    I'd take the mention of a vanity system coming with some reservations to be honest. Given what they've said before, I highly doubt the vanity system is going to be as free as most of you expect it to be.

    Toggle though, is a definite must. In fact, several options to toggle would be nice, such as toggling others, yourself, both, etc.
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  3. #413
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Oh I'm sure many people will use the vanity system to screw with people.

    Hence the need for a toggle.
    But I can wear this same gear without the vanity system. Your just "hating on my style."

    as long as we are walking the road of prudishness, should we also have a toggle for Sublimen?
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  4. #414
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    No limitations - its fake gear, so why limit it?

    If you want to see other players as they really are, keep vanity toggled off.

    If you want play in a world of pretend gear and reindeer outfits, keep your vanity toggle on.

    Simple enough...
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  5. #415
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    You can't even do this before the vanity system, as players don't always wear gear that is exactly their level. Do you look at my plate mail to see If I'm a PLD? What If I'm wearing Scale mail, or rainmaker's tunic, or a hempen acton for laughs? the only way to be totally accurate is through check.

    and if you are concerned about your own party members, keep in mind that ARR displays the job of the person in your party, which should also be obvious from their main hand weapon.
    It is pretty hard to not know what job someone is on. The only two right now you could mix up right now are BLM and WHM due to both using wands and staves.
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  6. #416
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    No limitations - its fake gear, so why limit it?

    If you want to see other players as they really are, keep vanity toggled off.

    If you want play in a world of pretend gear and reindeer outfits, keep your vanity toggle on.

    Simple enough...
    Unless vanity is automatically off - and requires a passcode.. it should be limited because people who use vanity will post media to the internet. That media will help or not help SE get a better image/more customers.

    If all the outside world can see is naked people and christmas destroying end game - its not going to be very good on SE image or in flow. In the past SE has had some crude humor but it is very controlled - players SE cannot control beyond the systems they give us...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    But I can wear this same gear without the vanity system. Your just "hating on my style."

    as long as we are walking the road of prudishness, should we also have a toggle for Sublimen?
    Subligars should never have high defense - but subligars are a real world piece of armor. Though.. usually it comes with a skirt... (roman armors)
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    Last edited by Shougun; 10-20-2012 at 03:43 AM.

  7. #417
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Unless vanity is automatically off - and requires a passcode.. it should be limited because people who use vanity will post media to the internet. That media will help or not help SE get a better image/more customers.

    If all the outside world can see is naked people and christmas destroying end game - its not going to be very good on SE image or in flow. In the past SE has had some crude humor but it is very controlled - players SE cannot control beyond the systems they give us...



    Subligars should never have high defense - but subligars are a real world piece of armor. Though.. usually it comes with a skirt...
    I think you aren't getting it, gear is already varied enough to have some outlandish outfits while swinging a sword. you want limitations on limitations in the hopes of controlling what people wear on your screen. And I noticed you still haven't addressed the subliman issue.

    As I said, you're prudes.
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  8. #418
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I think you aren't getting it, gear is already varied enough to have some outlandish outfits while swinging a sword. you want limitations on limitations in the hopes of controlling what people wear on your screen. And I noticed you still haven't addressed the subliman issue.

    As I said, you're prudes.
    You're blind. I did. I said subligars are real armors - as in real freaking life. I just said there is usually a skirt over them. It's even in your quote.

    And slightly silly gear (blm hat without the body) in a long ass shot != what can happen in vanity.
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  9. #419
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    You're blind. I did. I said subligars are real armors - as in real freaking life. I just said there is usually a skirt over them. It's even in your quote.

    And slightly silly gear (blm hat without the body) in a long ass shot != what can happen in vanity.
    Well then so are santa suits and samurai helmets!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Well then so are santa suits and samurai helmets!
    Santa suits is real armor? I think the problem here is you havent experienced enough real life.

    Samurai helmets are obviously armors -_-...
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