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    Dannythm's Avatar
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    Kenshiro Joestar
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyph View Post
    Did well.

    /10ch
    Ooops, corrected already, thanks =).

    Argh! It doesn't change in the main title T_T

    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    Tanaka's xiv was unique with things no other games had.
    ARR seems like it will just be a wow clone

    too bad :x I really hope they do something to set the game apart
    That's why I liked it in the first place. There were great concepts, just not so well implemented. In my opinion, when I heard about 2.0 and it being a whole new game... I was not so convinced, for me, if they decided to keep updating the current version, it would have been perfect. But still, we have to wait and see to judge ARR.
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    Last edited by Dannythm; 10-20-2012 at 01:39 AM.

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    J'hyan Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannythm View Post
    Ooops, corrected already, thanks =).
    While you're making corrections, I believe you meant "Aesthetics" vs. "Ascetics"
    /thumbsup
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    Kelvin Novalmauge
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    I agree with the many who say the original (Tanaka) version of FFXIV was full of promise but poorly implemented. I think the armoury system was (is) fantastic, and I liked the idea (not the implementation) of physical level vs class rank. But what I miss most of all from Yoshida's changes is the old THM! In fact, I think both THM and CNJ really got messed up by the changes when the job system was introduced. Where THM used to be a light/dark mage with DOTs and debuffs - a highly strategic class - it is now a stripped down 1/2 elemental mage designed to be the natural precursor to BLM. None of the concept of Thaumaturgy has been retained, and it's distinctiveness is completely lost, as no other class had those light/dark, DOT, or debuff abilities. CNJ, similarly, is the other 1/2 elemental mage in a weak nod to its Tanaka-era roots, and also suffers from precursor-to-job syndrome.

    I do like the job system, and I think that it is a good direction, going forward, but they didn't have to gut the THM so utterly into a completely unrecognizable pre-BLM nuke machine to do it, did they?

    Well, it's a little late to complain now, I guess :P But that's what I miss the most from Tanaka's game.
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordain View Post
    I agree with the many who say the original (Tanaka) version of FFXIV was full of promise but poorly implemented. I think the armoury system was (is) fantastic, and I liked the idea (not the implementation) of physical level vs class rank. But what I miss most of all from Yoshida's changes is the old THM! In fact, I think both THM and CNJ really got messed up by the changes when the job system was introduced. Where THM used to be a light/dark mage with DOTs and debuffs - a highly strategic class - it is now a stripped down 1/2 elemental mage designed to be the natural precursor to BLM. None of the concept of Thaumaturgy has been retained, and it's distinctiveness is completely lost, as no other class had those light/dark, DOT, or debuff abilities. CNJ, similarly, is the other 1/2 elemental mage in a weak nod to its Tanaka-era roots, and also suffers from precursor-to-job syndrome.

    I do like the job system, and I think that it is a good direction, going forward, but they didn't have to gut the THM so utterly into a completely unrecognizable pre-BLM nuke machine to do it, did they?

    Well, it's a little late to complain now, I guess :P But that's what I miss the most from Tanaka's game.
    THM was overpowered. He was a good DD and the best healer and was able to tank Dodore solo. There was no point to level CNJ except for the buffs to use them with the THM.
    THM needed a nerf sooner or later anyway.
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    Batraal fight, Still the best fight in the game.
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    Zafeira Zhalwann
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannythm View Post
    Ooops, corrected already, thanks =).

    Argh! It doesn't change in the main title T_T
    That's odd. Oh well, it was going to bother me all day if I just said nothing. Carry on.
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