Possible Hate Bug on Ifrit Extreme?

[Enma]

Hi, guys!
Tanking Ifrit EX is for sure a pain in the ass, especially when it seems to be afflicted by a bug.
I'm speaking of the Tank's Nightmare Ability, the f*****g hate reset Ifrit uses after each damn jumps. It's known that you have to wait for Incinerate bla bla bla before voke it, but today for 2 times I couldn't get hate from it.

First time:
After I voked it, my hate was green, and I thought about 2 possibilities:

• Voked too early
• Someone else got hate

So I used Flash after few seconds, just to be sure to get it, shouting on TS to my friends to not use anything. Still green... Well, the one with hate started kiting Ifrit, till cooldown on abilities was ready. I used again Provoke + Flash but nothing! Still damn green! WTF!

Second time:
Jump, Incinerate bla bla bla, I used Provoke + Flash, my party gathered behind Ifrit and WHM used Sacred Prism and started casting Regenga. My hate passed from pulsing red to green.

So? I'm quite sure it's something buggy about this damn hate reset trend, but I didn't read anything about it, so I wanted to know if someone else got this problem while playing. Thank you in advance.

[Zezlar]

Did anyone get hit by incinerate?

[Fievel]

Was the person he was on the WHM? If so, did he use shroud of saints before jump?

[Churchill]

Was the person he was on the WHM? If so, did he use shroud of saints before jump?

this.
/10

[Fadigre]

Stuff, yeah...

I FEEL THIS PAIN.
TWELVE HAVE MERCY.

Our WHMs know not to use Shroud. They also seem to believe Second Wind is bugged here, too.
Either way, nobody is allowed to use anything come jumps and this still occurs from time to time.

It makes me saddest.

The most frustrating part is knowing how to get around it.

Normally after Incinerate I'll pull back to the north with both Provoke and Flash, then use Rampart when the clowns have all gathered together to solidify my position on the hate list but he seems to just have a mind of his own at times.

Anybody have any tips?

[Vexerus]

I've seen this before as has anyone who has done Ifrit X enough. I always thought it was a hate bug as well.

As WHM, I had this experience once: do literally nothing from the time he first jumps until he lands and incinerate complete yet still go from green to flashing red AFTER incinerate. Fieval's response above would explain this.

Was the person he was on the WHM? If so, did he use shroud of saints before jump?

So this is the scenario?

WHM uses Shroud of Saints, reducing their enmity by half
Ifrit jumps, hate reset for all
Ifrit completes dashes and lands, targets someone other than WHM, uses incinerate
Shroud of Saints wears off and WHM receives the enmity they shred back which of course is much higher than PLD's initial voke/flash

This is the only plausible explanation I've come across and may just be the reason for this as I cannot specifically recall this happening to anyone other than a WHM.

[Fievel]

Honestly the only time I've seen this happen is when the WHM uses shroud of saints just before jump, because they then get all the hate back once it wears off even though Ifrit was supposed to have reset.

Edit: Sorry Vexerus, missed your post before making this one. Yes, that's exactly what happens.

[Leo_Hart]

JP party doing this, whoever get enmity just kite him and everyone else gather @ center, PLD rampart when he in Incinerate motion. Timing very important, if you do it b4 and pull hate, everyone got PRESENT.

[Zdenka]

Its just people not being careful about threat.

Rampart on 6 people, get Ifrit to your tank spot, Voke/Flash and resume.

[Vexerus]

JP party doing this, whoever get enmity just kite him and everyone else gather @ center, PLD rampart when he in Incinerate motion. Timing very important, if you do it b4 and pull hate, everyone got PRESENT.

Its just people not being careful about threat.

Rampart on 6 people, get Ifrit to your tank spot, Voke/Flash and resume.

You guys just don't understand exactly what is happening here. It is a lot more subtle than simply saying "PLD can't get enough hate" or "others are pulling too much hate."