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[AntonyB]

Just posting doesn't make something an opinion or fact -- What you post does however. What you're saying in other words is you can post something like "Hey, Mcdonalds sells burgers!" and you would say that's your opinion.

Actually I would have needed to say, I KNOW Aion has better graphics to make it a statement, but seeing as I didin't it would imply that is what I THINK(personal opinion not anyone elses). Please stop trying to look good because you yourself don't even know the difference.

Let me word it for you:
Aion has better graphics - Its not stating anything, its just an opinion. Ofcourse better wording could be used tho.

MaccyDs sells burgers - Well I/u KNOW that, so would would be a statement rather than an opinion.

Please, stop trying so hard.

The one who brought it up was you -.-
I tried to explain it to you twice now, I guess I'm just bad at it.

Yes. It still doesn't change the fact that what you see as "graphics" is composed from different components, one of them being graphic quality (=what is better in FFXIV), design consistency/quality (=aesthetics=what is better in Aion) and engine optimization (=what makes NPCs appear faster and the camera lag less)

Actually original post was here:

XIV's graphics are by far the best out there for an MMO..
You can tell what fabric your clothes are made of if you look close... u can see fibers and shit..
Enviorment, weather, wall textures, plantage, mobs' details, armor glow, realistic movement,shadows, cutscenes....
Where else have you guys seen better than this game's graphics. its an MMO ffs..... chill people.

I fu**** love this game's graphics. and i dun even play ALL max!

Then I replied, because I totally started it right? You know because replying to something means starting the entire discussion? Yes people was not happy with the reply so best all shoot that person because of what they said, lol. Also even if you look he's talking about aesthetics aswell, why not jump on his ass because he confused them with graphics?! Oh right because he fanboy'd it and I didn't, heh.

[Warlock]

This could actually be more harmful than good -- Developers who settle for "nothing less than perfect" runs the risk of not only losing hype for their game but also missing a time period for their project; For example, nowadays Shooters and 'Sandbox' type games are the rage, what if the game that wouldn't released "until it's perfect" was an older fashioned Shooter game, basically missing the boat as they say?

The whole "when it's ready" style release dates work fine but XIV is a special case because it's a relaunch, not a new game -- it's still titled Final Fantasy XIV, a name marred with negative press and bad history -- They have a lot to do and a lot of expectations to meet.

This is where you and a lot of ppl are wrong.. it is a new game built from the ground up it is a complete new team which have a whole different style of ideas the title is new servers will be new etc etc. this new game will only borrow names from 1.0 as w/e came after NOV 2011 was Yoshi-P's doing

[Abriael]

Aion has better graphics - Its not stating anything, its just an opinion. Ofcourse better wording could be used tho.

You can say that the sky is green with yellow polka dots, and hide between the "it's an opinion!" excuse. That dosn't make it less nonsensical.

Aion's graphics are outdated, flat and undetailed. There's absolutely no point of view under which they can be considered "better" than those you find in FFXIV, 1.0 or ARR.

[Starlord]

This is where you and a lot of ppl are wrong.. it is a new game built from the ground up it is a complete new team which have a whole different style of ideas the title is new servers will be new etc etc. this new game will only borrow names from 1.0 as w/e came after NOV 2011 was Yoshi-P's doing

Yeah, people seem to forget that this is a new game with the same name ( only because they don;t want a Numbered FF game to fail) so this is their way for preserving that name. Other than the name.. most things about FFXIV ARR will be New, heck they even changed their minds on the last minute to change some things "within" the cities..

but what do I know I'm just a lowly peasant from Gridania who eats marmots because everyone is like "MY FOOD HISSSSS". ^.^

[AntonyB]

You can say that the sky is green with yellow polka dots, and hide between the "it's an opinion!" excuse. That dosn't make it less nonsensical.

Aion's graphics are outdated, flat and undetailed. There's absolutely no point of view under which they can be considered "better" than those you find in FFXIV, 1.0 or ARR.

I'm sure most of these people just post to boost count or something, funny how its always the 1000+ posters that have something to say.

[Starlord]

I'm sure most of these people just post to boost count or something, funny how its always the 1000+ posters that have something to say.

and yet half of your 81 posts reside in this thread, meh

I am ungratful.. I don't deserve to be in your presence! "eats his marmot in a corner.." nom..... nom..... nom....

[AntonyB]

and yet half of your 81 posts reside in this thread, meh

I am ungratful.. I don't deserve to be in your presence! "eats his marmot in a corner.." nom..... nom..... nom....

What can i say, haters keep me busy. <3

[Starlord]

What can i say, haters keep me busy. <3

There are lots of haters sniffing about aren't they?

Well I just hope ARR will blow this minds away, so they won;t have to be all down SE throat with Negativity all the damn time. ( Negativity is fine, but it just seems a lot of people over due it). out of my 2 years on these forums.. only like 3% of the time people say something good about what SE is doing, while the other 97% are like "SE YOU FAIL GO BACK TO YOUR CORNER"

Most of the time, the forums do more complaining then constructive criticism. I'm the 1 in the few people that try to give SE something to be hopeful about. If all the forums do is bash SE.. where is the motivation to make an awesome game?

There has to be a balance between telling (SE your doing this wrong! and SE your doing a great job keep it up!) I know they are a company.. but they are human to, if someone kept bashing your ideas to the ends of the earth or even bullying you How would your self-esteem be at that time?

It's like a parents need to have unconditional love for their child. Saying this is bad but showing them you still love and care for them. Of course it's not the same way with a Company, but people do need motivation to have any strive to even continue.

That's why I do what I do on the forums, but I'm only one human being :P.

[Soukyuu]

Also even if you look he's talking about aesthetics aswell, why not jump on his ass because he confused them with graphics?! Oh right because he fanboy'd it and I didn't, heh.

If you think I'm jumping you, you are mistaken. If I was jumping you, I'd said something along the lines of your opinion not being an opinion.

If you see an attempt to clarify aesthetics vs graphics to you as "jumping you" then maybe you're being a bit too sensitive about it.

And the reason I didn't "jump" him is simple: I only skimmed over the post. Indirectly calling me a fanboy is rather hilarious considering some of my post on these forums, especially regarding ARR

[AntonyB]

There are lots of haters sniffing about aren't they?

Well I just hope ARR will blow this minds away, so they won;t have to be all down SE throat with Negativity all the damn time. ( Negativity is fine, but it just seems a lot of people over due it). out of my 2 years on these forums.. only like 3% of the time people say something good about what SE is doing, while the other 97% are like "SE YOU FAIL GO BACK TO YOUR CORNER"

Most of the time, the forums do more complaining then constructive criticism. I'm the 1 in the few people that try to give SE something to be hopeful about. If all the forums do is bash SE.. where is the motivation to make an awesome game?

There has to be a balance between telling (SE your doing this wrong! and SE your doing a great job keep it up!) I know they are a company.. but they are human to, if someone kept bashing your ideas to the ends of the earth or even bullying you How would your self-esteem be at that time?

It's like a parents need to have unconditional love for their child. Saying this is bad but showing them you still love and care for them. Of course it's not the same way with a Company, but people do need motivation to have any strive to even continue.

That's why I do what I do on the forums, but I'm only one human being :P.

I'm not even bashing SE @_@ I actually love the look of 2.0 and just like the rest of the fan base, are DIEING to play it!! Everything they have shown so far has been amazing, just wish it would hurry up already! xD

I do agree with you tho, a good 90% of the forum is just people complaining all the time, although I'm not complaining about anything! Well except the game currently is kinda laggy, but we know this should be fixed in the new version.

If you think I'm jumping you, you are mistaken. If I was jumping you, I'd said something along the lines of your opinion not being an opinion.

If you see an attempt to clarify aesthetics vs graphics to you as "jumping you" then maybe you're being a bit too sensitive about it.

And the reason I didn't "jump" him is simple: I only skimmed over the post. Indirectly calling me a fanboy is rather hilarious considering some of my post on these forums, especially regarding ARR

Stop trying so hard, read the post again, I said HE fanboyed it, not you, jesus. Also yes, ty for pointing out the difference between the both.