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[AntonyB]

You can say that the sky is green with yellow polka dots, and hide between the "it's an opinion!" excuse. That dosn't make it less nonsensical.

Aion's graphics are outdated, flat and undetailed. There's absolutely no point of view under which they can be considered "better" than those you find in FFXIV, 1.0 or ARR.

I'm sure most of these people just post to boost count or something, funny how its always the 1000+ posters that have something to say.

[Starlord]

I'm sure most of these people just post to boost count or something, funny how its always the 1000+ posters that have something to say.

and yet half of your 81 posts reside in this thread, meh

I am ungratful.. I don't deserve to be in your presence! "eats his marmot in a corner.." nom..... nom..... nom....

[AntonyB]

and yet half of your 81 posts reside in this thread, meh

I am ungratful.. I don't deserve to be in your presence! "eats his marmot in a corner.." nom..... nom..... nom....

What can i say, haters keep me busy. <3

[Starlord]

What can i say, haters keep me busy. <3

There are lots of haters sniffing about aren't they?

Well I just hope ARR will blow this minds away, so they won;t have to be all down SE throat with Negativity all the damn time. ( Negativity is fine, but it just seems a lot of people over due it). out of my 2 years on these forums.. only like 3% of the time people say something good about what SE is doing, while the other 97% are like "SE YOU FAIL GO BACK TO YOUR CORNER"

Most of the time, the forums do more complaining then constructive criticism. I'm the 1 in the few people that try to give SE something to be hopeful about. If all the forums do is bash SE.. where is the motivation to make an awesome game?

There has to be a balance between telling (SE your doing this wrong! and SE your doing a great job keep it up!) I know they are a company.. but they are human to, if someone kept bashing your ideas to the ends of the earth or even bullying you How would your self-esteem be at that time?

It's like a parents need to have unconditional love for their child. Saying this is bad but showing them you still love and care for them. Of course it's not the same way with a Company, but people do need motivation to have any strive to even continue.

That's why I do what I do on the forums, but I'm only one human being :P.

[AntonyB]

There are lots of haters sniffing about aren't they?

Well I just hope ARR will blow this minds away, so they won;t have to be all down SE throat with Negativity all the damn time. ( Negativity is fine, but it just seems a lot of people over due it). out of my 2 years on these forums.. only like 3% of the time people say something good about what SE is doing, while the other 97% are like "SE YOU FAIL GO BACK TO YOUR CORNER"

Most of the time, the forums do more complaining then constructive criticism. I'm the 1 in the few people that try to give SE something to be hopeful about. If all the forums do is bash SE.. where is the motivation to make an awesome game?

There has to be a balance between telling (SE your doing this wrong! and SE your doing a great job keep it up!) I know they are a company.. but they are human to, if someone kept bashing your ideas to the ends of the earth or even bullying you How would your self-esteem be at that time?

It's like a parents need to have unconditional love for their child. Saying this is bad but showing them you still love and care for them. Of course it's not the same way with a Company, but people do need motivation to have any strive to even continue.

That's why I do what I do on the forums, but I'm only one human being :P.

I'm not even bashing SE @_@ I actually love the look of 2.0 and just like the rest of the fan base, are DIEING to play it!! Everything they have shown so far has been amazing, just wish it would hurry up already! xD

I do agree with you tho, a good 90% of the forum is just people complaining all the time, although I'm not complaining about anything! Well except the game currently is kinda laggy, but we know this should be fixed in the new version.

If you think I'm jumping you, you are mistaken. If I was jumping you, I'd said something along the lines of your opinion not being an opinion.

If you see an attempt to clarify aesthetics vs graphics to you as "jumping you" then maybe you're being a bit too sensitive about it.

And the reason I didn't "jump" him is simple: I only skimmed over the post. Indirectly calling me a fanboy is rather hilarious considering some of my post on these forums, especially regarding ARR

Stop trying so hard, read the post again, I said HE fanboyed it, not you, jesus. Also yes, ty for pointing out the difference between the both.

[Jennestia]

Most of the time, the forums do more complaining then constructive criticism. I'm the 1 in the few people that try to give SE something to be hopeful about. If all the forums do is bash SE.. where is the motivation to make an awesome game?

There has to be a balance between telling (SE your doing this wrong! and SE your doing a great job keep it up!) I know they are a company.. but they are human to, if someone kept bashing your ideas to the ends of the earth or even bullying you How would your self-esteem be at that time?

It's like a parents need to have unconditional love for their child. Saying this is bad but showing them you still love and care for them. Of course it's not the same way with a Company, but people do need motivation to have any strive to even continue.

You also have to realize those who will "be positive" or "defend everything" doesn't help either -- You say there needs to be a balance but then you have certain people who will tell others they're being negative or wrong or "its my opinion gtfo" because they can't handle someone with a different view from them. Accepting everything someone does leads us to DLC for basic stuff which lead Capcom to their current business practice of charging us 2-4x+ for game content that we already paid for -- Some things are simply unacceptable that people will defend or will tell those who have concerns they shouldn't be concerned about it and accept it.

As much as people want to hate on and bash Tanaka and the previous team, most of which as YoshiP said still works on XIV, people need to remember that ARR is Yoshida's first real step to prove is he has what it takes or not -- When he took over XIV 1.0 he stated he was pushing out the updates and content the previous team had in the works then it would be stuff he as a director/producer puts in the pipeline like the Job system.

As much as people want to say ARR is a brand new game, if it takes place on the same planet and follow the same storyline, it's the same game -- The design may be different but most people will always remember Final Fantasy XIV as the MMO that failed in 2010 and there's a hell of a lot they need to do to get people and keep them despite that. "No press is bad press" but in terms of MMOs, not many get a successful second chance.

What most people "lol you all complain everything!" seem to ignore is that in terms of graphics, they are a step back from current, you can deny this tll your fingers fall off if you want, but it's fact; This is why people will comment on the graphics at all -- while graphics aren't everything, not everyone is blind to changes being made for ARR or will be happy with everything.

[Yucie]

As much as people want to hate on and bash Tanaka and the previous team, most of which as YoshiP said still works on XIV, people need to remember that ARR is Yoshida's first real step to prove is he has what it takes or not -- When he took over XIV 1.0 he stated he was pushing out the updates and content the previous team had in the works then it would be stuff he as a director/producer puts in the pipeline like the Job system.

As much as people want to say ARR is a brand new game, if it takes place on the same planet and follow the same storyline, it's the same game -- The design may be different but most people will always remember Final Fantasy XIV as the MMO that failed in 2010 and there's a hell of a lot they need to do to get people and keep them despite that. "No press is bad press" but in terms of MMOs, not many get a successful second chance.

What most people "lol you all complain everything!" seem to ignore is that in terms of graphics, they are a step back from current, you can deny this tll your fingers fall off if you want, but it's fact; This is why people will comment on the graphics at all -- while graphics aren't everything, not everyone is blind to changes being made for ARR or will be happy with everything.

People are going to bash Tanaka over and over, no matter how much anyone defends him. It was him and his team that were responsible for FFXIV back in 2010, and from what little activity there was in patching the game, delivering content and news, and things of the like, we can now see that Tanaka had no ambitions for the game and it's future -- it was pushed out the door at a very bad time in the pipeline, and the game was nothing more than a skeleton. The one responsible for this, if not solely, was Tanaka for allowing this to happen.

When we see Yoshida, we see progress. We see vision, and we see ambition. As director and producer, for 2 years him and his huge team have worked on rebuilding the game almost entirely from scratch, with a new engine, new zones, and pretty much everything used in ARR will be their handiwork, and not recycled from current FFXIV1.x. He's passionate about his job, and he seems to love what he's doing. He keeps in contact with the fans at events, he writes us letters, and news is coming (though I admit, some of it is certainly slow in arriving). With Tanaka, we never saw ANYTHING and the game never really went anywhere until they shuffled the development teams and put Yoshi-P in charge.

He has played MMOs, including the world's largest. From being a hardcore player of these games, he'll have the experience and knowledge required to make a game that is worthy of being called Final Fantasy. So far, he's doing just that - the concept art, new zones, the new (and faster) battle system, chocobo raising - all of that seems spectacular and strong, and with each new announcement, or batch of screens, or concept art, I grow even more anxious to finally sit down and play ARR for myself. I'm really excited for it.

The FFXIV team needs a strong leader who can guide the game and fulfill his vision of an awesome MMO. I believe that person is Yoshida, and he's done nothing short of miracle work since they started 2 years ago. So please, don't say that him wanting everything to perfection is a bad thing - it's what the game needs. The fans, and peers of FFXIV won't settle for anything less than perfection at this point.

[Jennestia]

People are going to bash Tanaka over and over, no matter how much anyone defends him. It was him and his team that were responsible for FFXIV back in 2010, and from what little activity there was in patching the game, delivering content and news, and things of the like, we can now see that Tanaka had no ambitions for the game and it's future -- it was pushed out the door at a very bad time in the pipeline, and the game was nothing more than a skeleton. The one responsible for this, if not solely, was Tanaka for allowing this to happen.

Maybe it works differently where you're from but in Japan, most companies I've worked with it's more up to the ones running a company when something needs to be out, not so much the ones leading a project -- We still have our bosses too. Tanaka said time and time again XIV was not ready up until it was given it's September release date.

When we see Yoshida, we see progress. We see vision

As I said, a lot of updates Yoshida pushed out was from Tanaka's team; The only vision of Yoshida's we seen for sure based on timing was the Job system and up to the conclusion of the 7th Umbral era storyline, and even that is likely the team's idea more so than Yoshi's as the team for the most part is the same, only the managerial portion was reformed.

The FFXIV team needs a strong leader who can guide the game and fulfill his vision of an awesome MMO. I believe that person is Yoshida, and he's done nothing short of miracle work since they started 2 years ago.

So once again, most of the updates "he has done miracles with" were the previous teams when he took over, ARR is pretty much the thing he has done and we're still waiting for actual information, let alone to get it in our hands to see if he truly did perform a miracle or not.

So please, don't say that him wanting everything to perfection is a bad thing - it's what the game needs. The fans, and peers of FFXIV won't settle for anything less than perfection at this point.

This is why I feel XIV has a very high chance of failing, people will expect too much and if expectations aren't met -- well, we've seen what happens to MMOs. I think this is why some people will easily jump on someone for having a different point of view from completely being happy with everything.

[bobbygunz]

We see vision, and we see ambition.

Ambition to instance everything and make a quest-spam progression system?... real ambitious. Meanwhile other games are making non-instanced housing systems, and combat with active blocking/dodging, and so-called dynamic quests. Yoshi might be ambitious in his own head, but vision he certainly lacks. Unless by vision you mean copying WoW any chance he gets.

[Warlock]

You also have to realize those who will "be positive" or "defend everything" doesn't help either -- You say there needs to be a balance but then you have certain people who will tell others they're being negative or wrong or "its my opinion gtfo" because they can't handle someone with a different view from them. Accepting everything someone does leads us to DLC for basic stuff which lead Capcom to their current business practice of charging us 2-4x+ for game content that we already paid for -- Some things are simply unacceptable that people will defend or will tell those who have concerns they shouldn't be concerned about it and accept it.

As much as people want to hate on and bash Tanaka and the previous team, most of which as YoshiP said still works on XIV, people need to remember that ARR is Yoshida's first real step to prove is he has what it takes or not -- When he took over XIV 1.0 he stated he was pushing out the updates and content the previous team had in the works then it would be stuff he as a director/producer puts in the pipeline like the Job system.

As much as people want to say ARR is a brand new game, if it takes place on the same planet and follow the same storyline, it's the same game -- The design may be different but most people will always remember Final Fantasy XIV as the MMO that failed in 2010 and there's a hell of a lot they need to do to get people and keep them despite that. "No press is bad press" but in terms of MMOs, not many get a successful second chance.

What most people "lol you all complain everything!" seem to ignore is that in terms of graphics, they are a step back from current, you can deny this tll your fingers fall off if you want, but it's fact; This is why people will comment on the graphics at all -- while graphics aren't everything, not everyone is blind to changes being made for ARR or will be happy with everything.

They "might" be a step back ..but that's bcuz game is been built to be enjoyed by more ppl and not just the few with 1,000$-2,000$ PCs this fact ppl like you refuse to accept