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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    I agree that the seal pre-req is tedious and unskilled, but the rest of the relic quest is a lot better. It could stand to be harder, but the majority of the people who will complain about it on here aren't complaining because it's too easy, they're complaining because they want to make an excuse for not being able to complete it.
    ... polling stats from the air?

    Materia double meld on the relic weapon is also retarded RNG work. (But the whole materia system is retarded RNG)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    ... polling stats from the air?

    Materia double meld on the relic weapon is also retarded RNG work. (But the whole materia system is retarded RNG)
    Melded weapons are, what, 10-40mil on the wards depending on which one you want? That's really not a lot of money in this game. Why shouldn't relics have an economic component, anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by prymortal View Post
    yeah & alot are complaining due to the time involved just to get the started & have nothing to show for it, they'd have many levels in another mmo or even in this one.
    Oh no, a relic weapon takes a lot of time to get? How awful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    Melded weapons are, what, 10-40mil on the wards depending on which one you want? That's really not a lot of money in this game. Why shouldn't relics have an economic component, anyway?

    I didnt complain you could buy them. Though I think that is a little lame in the experience of making a relic.

    I just said that materia is stupid RNG. Its been long enough companies should stop copying each other just because someone else did it. There are better systems that would still maintain difficulty and yet reward each work and not random work.

    (thankfully SE is doing this, at least a little bit in 2.0)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I didnt complain you could buy them. Though I think that is a little lame in the experience of making a relic.

    I just said that materia is stupid RNG. Its been long enough companies should stop copying each other just because someone else did it. There are better systems that would still maintain difficulty and yet reward each work and not random work.

    (thankfully SE is doing this, at least a little bit in 2.0)
    I agree that materia RNG is not the most exciting, but there's really no shame in buying a melded weapon off the wards. The wards are there for a reason. It's not like you're going to SB farm (also lame RNG) all your own low-roll tier 4 materia for it anyway, so either way you're using the wards for it. Trust me, buying your M2 vs. melding it yourself really doesn't diminish from the "relic experience".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    I agree that materia RNG is not the most exciting, but there's really no shame in buying a melded weapon off the wards. The wards are there for a reason. It's not like you're going to SB farm (also lame RNG) all your own low-roll tier 4 materia for it anyway, so either way you're using the wards for it. Trust me, buying your M2 vs. melding it yourself really doesn't diminish from the "relic experience".

    Oh no I agree, with what system we have now your experience isnt diminished at all when purchasing vs crafting.

    I just meant it would have been more exciting to be a more personal experience and quest - current system is more of a "hey you 1.0 players I see you need something to do" lol.
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