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    Quote Originally Posted by moriandrio View Post
    And there is one reason why i dont want them, i just dont wanna see Rogadyn Paladins in a Yukata tanking, sry but thats something that would destroy the flair of the game.
    No, what would destroy the flair of the game would be seeing the return of the Optical Hat+Scorpion Harness/Haubergeon army.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Any player can wear whatever they want at any time -- right now (provided their jobs/classes fit the bill).
    And a vanity slot system would not change that aside from giving the player an option in how they look. Gear change macros are just that, and you're attempting to present them as an alternative when it is not much of an alternative in the first place.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    And a vanity slot system would not change that aside from giving the player an option in how they look..
    As if players can't change how they look now by simply equipping a different piece of gear.

    Also, Scorpion Harness - optical hat armies were a result of poor gear design, and AFAIK it's a problem that no longer exists in FFXI, so its a straw-man argument as far as I'm concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    As if they can't change how they look now by simply equipping a different piece of gear.
    It's not the same. Never has been and never will be. If I want to fight using a steel longsword appearance over my Ifrit's sword because I think the graphic for Ifrit's sword is ugly as hell, then I have every right to be able to do so without my performance in PvE suffering. Likewise, if I end up with a really ugly chest piece and I instead want to keep the look of my PLD AF chestpiece because I feel it better-fits my character, then I should be able to keep the appearance I like without PvE performance suffering.
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    Last edited by Duelle; 10-11-2012 at 03:43 AM.
    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    It's not the same. Never has been and never will be. If I want to fight using a steel longsword appearance over my Ifrit's sword because I think the graphic for Ifrit's sword is ugly as hell, then I have every right to be able to do so without my pefrormance in PvE suffering. Likewise, if I end up with a really ugly chest piece and I instead want to keep the look of my PLD AF chestpiece, then I should be able to keep the appearance I like without PvE performance suffering.
    Well, many of us have the 'right' to be able to look at a player and get a reasonable visual representation of the power level of their gear.

    And the dev's agree with this.

    So outside of battles you can look however you like, but while fighting, you have to wear your real gear.. Thankfully we have a wide array of viable choices for endgame gear (with more to come in ARR.)
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    Last edited by Zantetsuken; 10-11-2012 at 03:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    So outside of battles you can look however you like, but while fighting, you have to wear your real gear.. Thankfully we have a wide array of viable choices for endgame gear (with more to come in ARR.)
    Darklight, multi-melded cobalt gear and militia gear =/= wide array of gear. As for your first point, that's what /check is there for.

    I'm sick of gear designs going to waste due to stats or lackthereof. FFXI suffered plenty from that, so I'm not sure why you'd want more of that here.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)