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  1. #21
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    Mook_Mook's Avatar
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    Mook Mook
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 50
    its a bad event, and sadly its one of those things that gets less and less interest in it as it goes on. Less people wanna do it because they have what they want. I have the tricorne and have said screw that event, im never going back because of its piss poor design. IF I have legit group trying to do it, others try to mpk by getting hate and leashing h1 back to respawn zone. The event is a poorly designed mess, I my sympathies to anyone who is still stuck doing it.
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  2. #22
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    Angelas's Avatar
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    Angelas Diabolos
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    Hyperion
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    I am by no means a hardcore player and I dont have a million hours to invest but I have spent several hours a night for over a week and no drop.. so even though I am putting the time into it, its possible I wont get it before the servers shut down.. Im all for challenge but "luck" playing as a factor doesnt pan out.. sorry... they need to change it so that everyone can get the chance to get these items before they are gone..
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  3. #23
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    Titans's Avatar
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    Chris Davis
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    Excalibur
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    Leatherworker Lv 80
    It is possible to do with just one party. I spent at less 2 hours with a full party. We got one drop which fell in my inventory, then of course I had to pass it. :-p
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  4. #24
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    Skeezix's Avatar
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    Buck Melanoma
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Husband View Post
    Not. For. Everyone.

    Of course the drop rate is poor. It's an MMORPG by SE. Working as intended.

    If you don't like the drop rate why don't you go play FFXIII or something? A single player offline game might suit you all more. All of you. Or maybe go play World of Warcraft or something.

    It "should" take time, so invest some time if you really want that hat.

    There "should" be some work involved, but I do not believe it is overtly taxing considering the 4 hour time frame.

    EDIT: also it is spawning every 4-6 hrs this past week, how is this too hard once people quit farming it?
    It's easy with 5 people though (in AF). Find the edge of leash point, PLD leash, 3 BLM nuke, 1 WHM behind them curing.

    Please for the love of all that is holy do not make this any easier than it already is.
    THIS

    Have a gatherer farm in Iron Lake or Dragonhead, and you will always have someone with their eyes and ears on spawn times.

    I pull on mnk with stoneskin up and fists of wind and never die during a pull. Shoulder tackle can stun just before the rubberband point long enough for a full pt to burn one target down easily. 15 hats in 4 days. The biggest problem is people whining about not having a hat and then they go silent in LS when you find out spawn time.

    edit: how is this too hard now if it spawns every 4-6 hrs these days? Have not had any competition all week.
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    Last edited by Skeezix; 10-07-2012 at 07:15 PM. Reason: 4hrs part
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  5. #25
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    makeable with a 5 man party with much kite and time.
    Everyone in my party got the melee hat yesterday ^^
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    Last edited by Felis; 10-07-2012 at 08:48 PM.

  6. #26
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    Crevox's Avatar
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    Crevox Shadeseer
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    It just takes too long because of the low drop rate. It's not fun after a while.

    After killing it for hours, you've already proven that you can kill the mobs; after that it's just a massive time dump attempting to get an item that won't drop because RNG says no. There's nothing fun about that, there's nothing challenging about that, it's just a massive waste of time because SE decided to set the drop rate so low.
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  7. #27
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    Husband's Avatar
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    Flash Silver
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    Ragnarok
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Vogue View Post
    You are all missing the point that this is an "event" right? it is not something people can just invest time in because it will be gone, and I have done the leashing trick, killed it around 5 times now and no drops at all for anyone in the party, so yes we have no luck and time is running short, people get frustrated from trying if there is no drops at all, so they stop doing it, so less parties doing it, see the vicious cycle here?
    No I don't.

    The vicious circle you describe works both ways. If you make drops easier or a token system where people can collect so many and trade for a hat the same thing applies. People will get drops sooner, less people will do the event. Others will still not get a drop from lack of people doing the event.

    I have also spent a LOT of time over the weeks on this event and only just got one of the hats the other day. Your time will come.

    It takes 5 people (can also be done with 4 just takes longer)

    It's better if noone else is doing it. It means you have mobs all to yourself.

    I recognise and acknowledge that people are getting frustrated. This however is not a new thing, drops have been this way since XI started. It's a Final Fantasy staple.

  8. #28
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    Think we are missing some of the key issues with this community event. (We had them in some previous posts)

    Its not a community event. The whole claiming system is outdated, while it still does its job for singular non important mobs. When making a community event you really cant be using that system, its competitive by nature and demotes community and teamwork outside of your given party.

    While we all want FFXIV to have its own spunk - taking a look at how GW2 does some of its events wouldn't be a waste of their time. Its all very smart, that you can do it with a few but it ranks up in difficulty with more people - meaning you are never screwed out of content for one reason or another (too easy/hard, or the community is a cesspol).

    Promoting server teamwork will promote a better community, right now SE does not promote community.


    The low drop rates I believe they will address in 2.0 into a more logical "everyone works the same" for it system, which is good. I also believe they tried to listen to the communities feed back and thats why Atomos dropped a stone (a hot fix to let players work together).

    So I think SE is listening to us, but they dont have the resources to spare on this particular event or version (1.0). (Doesn't mean we shouldn't talk about it, we need to be transparent in whats going on with us as we are their market and it helps them know what we are thinking).

    Perhaps the best thing we can ask for is for these items to be available in 2.0 where we will have our proper fixes. (And to continue to push SE for better community devised systems and fair loot drops).

    Until we have the list of items discontinued we don't even know if these items will or will not be available in 2.0 in the first place, perhaps they will be so there is little to worry now anyways. They should really get that list going lol.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 10-09-2012 at 01:21 AM.

  9. #29
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    Kagoma's Avatar
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    Kagoma Wisp
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Vogue View Post
    Some of us aren't as lucky as you to have a LS that will "raid" this up. Also this is a event, not a permanent feature like hamlet or any chest. This event will be over in some weeks and most people haven't been lucky to get their hats in the parties they have been...Lucky you!
    Lol sorry but our ls does not consider this to be an event its just something we do to pass the time between our events. This can be done with Pug Groups without a problem. And you don't even need a full group if your chaining the mobs.
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  10. #30
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    Darkillumina's Avatar
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    Konstantine Porphyrogenitos
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    What the hell is wrong with you masochistic people? This event is ridiculous, my linkshell and I went and killed 7 sets of the elites + H1 and got absolutely nothing today. We did 5 yesterday and got the same result. For a short term event this is a piss poor drop rate.

    For those saying its not fair to people who already got it, who honestly gives a shit. You got the RNG gods to help you out and got a drop. This isn't darklight or triple melds we're dealing with here and should not be subject to the same shit you have to put up with in AV/CC/whatever.

    At the very least each set should guarantee at least 1 hat. I wonder what the hell is wrong with you people defending this asinine game design. There's something to be said for challenging content. There is not however, something to be said about wasting your time. There is nothing worse than devoting 3 hours of your time and turning up with absolutely nothing and being in the same position that you were when you started with 0 progress. You people are exactly the type SE should not be listening too when developing 2.0.

    Currently the mobs seem to be spawning much faster than they did at the beginning of the event. On my server they are frequently unclaimed leaving me to believe people got sick and tired of wasting there time much like some of the people I know. They are easy to exploit and kill and currently there does not seem to be much competition for the mobs. It just takes a while to kill them using the leashing method.
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    Last edited by Darkillumina; 10-09-2012 at 08:02 AM.

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