If SE is taking away my hard work...

[viion]

The mere fact we are walking into a new version of the game will influence buying power. So why single out the redenomination when it will have a minimal impact compared to what the new game/system/items/whatnot will do.

I did not single out redenomination. Many of my expresses are from the adverse effect of redenomination and peoples greediness and willingness to exploit areas of gain.

[Rak_Boy]

I'll order Guild War 2 ... in case 2.0 is a crap i'll switch to it

I'll play it in the 3 months off between Nov and release date.

[Vindrax]

A Double Meld Relic Bow for example I DO NOT THINK will reduce to 3m from 30m, i think it will start at about 15m and reduce to around 10m. I dont think it ever will, ever, at all be 3m.

How confident are you in this statement? 100%? If so, I assume you are currently dumping all of your gil to stock up on these to make a killer profit in 2.0?

I'm being very serious about this and I want to know honestly if you truly believe this, you should be dumping all of your gil currently to stock up on these items. And if you aren't, I'd like to know why.

[darkstarpoet1]

How confident are you in this statement? 100%? If so, I assume you are currently dumping all of your gil to stock up on these to make a killer profit in 2.0?

I'm being very serious about this and I want to know honestly if you truly believe this, you should be dumping all of your gil currently to stock up on these items. And if you aren't, I'd like to know why.

i know a ton of people that are, but i am very selective on what i buy and how much i pay for it. i have been dumping alot into buying stuff, but only when i find a mass amount of something for really cheap pricing.

[viion]

How confident are you in this statement? 100%? If so, I assume you are currently dumping all of your gil to stock up on these to make a killer profit in 2.0?

I'm being very serious about this and I want to know honestly if you truly believe this, you should be dumping all of your gil currently to stock up on these items. And if you aren't, I'd like to know why.

I have placed my Gil into various items yes, not all because I do not mind the loss, I am happy there is a loss, I would not mind a full wipe of gil. So the loss to me doesn't hurt me, I am just aware and know it is a loss (to me). I am keeping some gil to be able to pay tax, retainer costs, and purchase any new items that pop up on the wards right away. While my other items sell and bring me back a profit.

If I wasn't confident in my prediction of what I think would happen, then why would I debate it for seven pages?

[Vindrax]

No it's not that, I was just wondering why different items, you seem extremely confident about that bow, so I thought it would be a sure bet. What other high ticket items do you think are going go increase in value 500%? I'm curious.

[Alhanelem]

What stops them from doing it again?

"7. All gil currently held by players will be reduced to 1/10 of current values."

Wow, so people who worked for 999 million will get dropped to 99 million? Sound fair? You know how long it would take to farm that much money, how much work, time, concentration, focus, and effort? Too much to even fathom.

What's next? Take away my gear, my character, my levels? This is ridiculous. I can see if we all played with the new ps3 players, but we will be with the old players, who have more than enough money with no complaints.

Eventually all the prices will be back to how they were. This is what it is like in EVERY online game.

I have 0 crafts and 0 gathering professions. I literally have no income, I had a nice chunk saved, not spending money until 2.0 came out. I have been saving since day 1 of the announcement. I knew the game would be a waste of time to play. Now look at it? All my dedication, gone...

Square enix, if this happens and you follow through. Ill be very disappointed. I have buying and rebuying remade games from your company for decades and I plan on doing so for decades to come. If I lose all my hard work. I might have to move to mistwalker. Hironobu sakaguchi would never let something like this happen. He knows how a final fantasy game should be made.

If no one can afford things, I guarantee it'll lead to more people buying Gil from online stores.

Oh and btw...retarded ideas like this only affect the poor. It never hurts the rich.

Thank you for your time, and I hope the Devs read my plea.

Yoshi, you're a badass director but this is uncalled for.

Man up and tell the Devs you want that idea scrapped!

I am SICK of seeing this topic come up. 19 likes even, for someone who has no understanding of what redenomination really meas.

SE IS NOT TAKING AWAY ANY OF YOUR WORK. **EVERYONE** is affected by this equally. Money is being scaled, not taken away. All NPC buy/sell prices, all gill rewards and costs, and everything else will also be scaled accordingly.

This does NOT hurt the poor or help the rich. Because of differences in supply and demand, some prices will change, but everything will balance out over time, as it does with any economy be it game or real life.
Whether you have 999 million or just 9 gil, your buying power stays the same (Hell, if you have 5-9 gil, your buying power actually will probably go up very slightly due to rounding).

STOP THE FREAKING PANIC AND STOP HATING ON SE for making a reasonable, logical change to the game. Nothing other than a single arrow buys for less than 10 gil, therefore the extra digit is unnecessary and just makes players deal in larger numbers.

I'm sorry if I sound angry here but I really find the lack of understanding on this issue appalling.

[Rizon]

It might help our understanding of the problem if SE published a breakdown of Gil holdings of various players. Let us see how many people have holdings in the 900,000,000 to 999,999,999 range, 8000,000,000 to 899,999,999 range ect. Let us see if there in an inordinate number of people in the upper brackets. If there is then, just maybe, there is a justification to this partial Gil wipe.

Even if there is SEs current planned server setup does not justify a 90% reduction for everyone. The only way a 90% reduction can be justified is if we were being allowed to join any server of our choice. That way new players would not be placed at an extreme disadvantage relative to existing players.As it is we are being restricted to existing servers with existing players and existing economies. Depending on how SE plans to construct Gil making opportunities there will still exist a disparity between people at the high end of Gil holding and those at the low end. If the breakdown of holdings justify it then cap the max holdings at launch to 99,999,999 but let everyone keep what they earned up to that point, as originally promised. Anyway you go this is still a poorly disguised partial Gil wipe.

[darkstarpoet1]

No it's not that, I was just wondering why different items, you seem extremely confident about that bow, so I thought it would be a sure bet. What other high ticket items do you think are going go increase in value 500%? I'm curious.

i'll be honest i think people will make more of a return on lower ticket items in 2.0. that's just a personal belief and i don't have anything to back it up with. take things like electrum ingots that sell for 3-5k each because of how hard it is to get electrum(well time consuming not hard). i just don't see them dropping to 3-500 gil each. i know they will drop, but i feel as though they will wind up sitting in more of a 800-1200 gil each range.

i also believe that consumable items will have a higher demand than they have now. i just don't see 5000 gil potions selling for 500 in 2.0 with them closer to 1k+. once again, i could be wrong, but it's just a personal belief.

[Alhanelem]

It might help our understanding of the problem if SE published a breakdown of Gil holdings of various players. Let us see how many people have holdings in the 900,000,000 to 999,999,999 range, 8000,000,000 to 899,999,999 range ect. Let us see if there in an inordinate number of people in the upper brackets. If there is then, just maybe, there is a justification to this partial Gil wipe.

Even if there is SEs current planned server setup does not justify a 90% reduction for everyone. The only way a 90% reduction can be justified is if we were being allowed to join any server of our choice. That way new players would not be placed at an extreme disadvantage relative to existing players.As it is we are being restricted to existing servers with existing players and existing economies. Depending on how SE plans to construct Gil making opportunities there will still exist a disparity between people at the high end of Gil holding and those at the low end. If the breakdown of holdings justify it then cap the max holdings at launch to 99,999,999 but let everyone keep what they earned up to that point, as originally promised. Anyway you go this is still a poorly disguised partial Gil wipe.

Once agian, another person who fails to understand the issue.

The amount of mony any person has is irrelevant. Everyone will have porportionally the same amount and same buying power they had before. The only difference is how we're expressing that buying power.

This is called redenominaiton, has happened dozens of times throughout Earth's history and people do not lose money. In effect, all you are doing is trading in 10 small units for 1 larger unit. You have a smaller number of big units that buy the same amount of stuff the larger number of small units bought before. Fears of price gouging are overblown. Supply and Demand will force prices to where they should be over time. EVERYBODY WINS. NOBODY LOSES.