Please get rid of surplus SP

[Fensfield]

I just hit surplus for the first time yesterday, actually and.. well, it's not bothering me.

To be perfectly frank it seems a shame to remove it, though.. inevitable, but a shame. So much for being balanced with the hardcore players, even if it would've taken tweaking to really achieve that.

Oh well..

[Reika]

Crafting without the fear of surplus..... will be nice.

[Yarr]

This system only punishes the hardcore fanbase. Right now square needs all the hardcore players they can get. Get rid of it and up the rank to 60.

[Rhianu]

Hey, I have a suggestion:

Rather than eliminating Surplus SP entirely, why not simply invert the system so that it works like Rested EXP in WoW?

See, the Surplus SP system punishes people for playing too long, which is why people don't like it. But Rested EXP in WoW is the reverse of that, and instead rewards players for taking breaks.

In its current form, Surplus SP in FFXIV starts with the normal amount of EXP gained and slowly drains it down to zero over time. But the Rested EXP in WoW builds up from the normal amount of EXP, allowing you to gain 200% as much EXP as normal when your character is "Rested." And when your Rested status wears off, the amount of EXP you gain returns to normal.

So Rested EXP in WoW feels like an actual bonus and a reward, whereas Surplus SP in FFXIV feels like an undeserved and unjust punishment. Because of this, WoW's Rested EXP is viewed as a positive thing, whereas FFXIV's Surplus SP is viewed as a negative thing.

Successful game systems are ones that encourage positive emotions, not negative ones (a point which I've tried to emphasis in this post by using colored text).

If Surplus SP in FFXIV were to build up player's EXP instead of dragging it down, I believe people would no longer hate the system, and in fact would actually start enjoying it.

[Fensfield]

<Above>

That um... that isn't a bad idea, actually. I'd go for that, maybe. I think I'd still prefer the present system with some re-balancing, but that wouldn't be bad.

[HayaHime]

Thank you so much Y-P <3

[Rentahamster]

Hey, I have a suggestion:

Rather than eliminating Surplus SP entirely, why not simply invert the system so that it works like Rested EXP in WoW?

Indeed. In fact it was brought up dozens of times earlier in the thread. This is the best way to do it, IMO.

[Vesper]

Good by horrible surplus system, I will not miss you.

[Honz]

Yes surplus please be gone! While you're at that Yoshi P. remove the physical level system as well I'm tired of waiting hours to reset my attributes.

[Nergal]

I'm not an hardcore player, far from that, but i hit surplus very often just because when i play i like to do leves, dunes, behests, dunes again... and i do them with my lancer and after a few ranks there's the yellow thing. I now the loss is not that bad in the first stage of fatigue but it feels like a waste. So if i don't feel like it to play other classes cause my main point is to get R50 i stop playing till fatigue resets.

So SE if you are going to remove it TYVM