Live Letter III: Changes to "Crystal Shards"

[Kyra]

New gathering system(s) though. Maybe it's being made to keep the bots at bay, in a way smarter than fatigue was?

EDIT: Forgot fishing is going to be even more different still from the other two.

Designing a game around keeping bots at bay is what got this game in trouble in the first place.

[Elexia]

Designing a game around keeping bots at bay is what got this game in trouble in the first place.

A game being unfinished is what got us "in trouble" in the first place.

[Venat]

A game being unfinished is what got us "in trouble" in the first place.

Developer's asleep at the PC is what got us "in trouble" in the first place.

[NefGP]

Well GP is for Abilities, No Per chop, you can get the same things without the Abilities just will be difficult without the abilities XD.

That's not what it looked like in the Live Letter.

[Shougun]

That's not what it looked like in the Live Letter.

YoshiP said that GP will let you use your abilities which will change rates and possibility of items available/visible when gathering.

Now that there is no minigame to fail on they made some more RNG to deal with XD.

Basically an elm log would be 50% gather but perhaps with a ability on it's 100%, but it costs GP to cast which regenerates over a -long- period of time. (The new fatigue system basically).

Elm log is an example made by me... no idea what the rates are for items.

[XavierBlade]

YoshiP said it!

[NefGP]

YoshiP said that GP will let you use your abilities which will change rates and possibility of items available/visible when gathering.

Now that there is no minigame to fail on they made some more RNG to deal with XD.

Basically an elm log would be 50% gather but perhaps with a ability on it's 100%, but it costs GP to cast which regenerates over a -long- period of time. (The new fatigue system basically).

Elm log is an example made by me... no idea what the rates are for items.

Still validates my point lol, which is the new system will stagger botters. And so far, it looks to be loads better than the current system, I can not express how happy I am to see the stupid Hot & Cold mini-game get the boot in favor of directly picking what we want to gather. Why I'm purposely leaving my cooking at 30; though I could level it fast & cheap on fish, eh, I hate fishing and would rather do other things. I just want to gouge my eyes out after trying to log for apples in emerald moss (I mean really, IT'S GOD DAMNED APPLES!!!! WHY ARE THEY SO RARE?!) so hopefully in ARR getting said apples won't make me want to do something unsavory, lol.

[Elexia]

You can't stagger bots as they read from memloc, so anything that is sent to the client can be utilized by a bot. This is the reason they put the interface serverside to try to stagger RMT/Bots.

Even that didn't work. Also you're doing it horribly wrong if you're logging for apples lol, my brother and his gf got multiple stacks from farming mobs that drop it.

[Shougun]

Still validates my point lol, which is the new system will stagger botters. And so far, it looks to be loads better than the current system, I can not express how happy I am to see the stupid Hot & Cold mini-game get the boot in favor of directly picking what we want to gather. Why I'm purposely leaving my cooking at 30; though I could level it fast & cheap on fish, eh, I hate fishing and would rather do other things. I just want to gouge my eyes out after trying to log for apples in emerald moss (I mean really, IT'S GOD DAMNED APPLES!!!! WHY ARE THEY SO RARE?!) so hopefully in ARR getting said apples won't make me want to do something unsavory, lol.

They are putting % chance on the gathered items so I'm not sure if that made anything easier. Also YoshiP hasnt described how fishing will work, it may have its own system entirely.

And what Elexia said about bots is so true, whatever system they pick its not going to stagger bots (in attempts, they can add fatigue systems - but that effects players as well). Thats why I said its a waste to design a system around fighting bots - rather make it fun.

[NefGP]

True enough.

I mean we saw it in XI, where Tanaka used some really draconian measures to fight off bots, and all it ended up doing was really hurting the players.