when the beta of 2.0 will be on for people

[Meatdawg]

hmm, they have said they wont give any date yet though. But since the game is supposed to be out before the end of 2012, i hope it will be before then :P (get an early beta and get rid of early bugs is important)

also, i want to have a christmas event, lets start ARR with lots of presents

Game will not be out in 2012, maybe March of 13 if we are lucky...

[Medura]

Game will not be out in 2012, maybe March of 13 if we are lucky...

no, march of 13 if were unlucky. Remember, yoshida never promises anything he cant hold, and in the last letter, he promised they would do their best to make it in time, and in time is mid-end of desember.

[Tonkra]

no, march of 13 if were unlucky. Remember, yoshida never promises anything he cant hold, and in the last letter, he promised they would do their best to make it in time, and in time is mid-end of desember.

heh? where do you got that info that this game being launched in december? did i get you right? ;XD

how should this look like?

october -> alpha test

november -> closed beta test

xxxx - > open beta test??

december -> release?


its obviously not possible in that time.

it'll be more like that:

october/(november) -> alpha
november/december/(january) -> closed beta
january -> open beta
feburary/march -> release


and the roadmap shows also that it will most likely be 2013 and not 2012:



the comprehensive roadmap says that the client will be out in january 2013.. and its the old roadmap of 2011 .. post-january means it can be after january.. i think it'll be more february or march. i say march the earliest

[Medura]

heh? where do you have read that this game being launched in december? did i get you right? ;XD

how should this look like?

october -> alpha test

november -> closed beta test

xxxx - > open beta test??

december -> release?


its obviously not possible in that time.

it'll be more like that:

october -> alpha
november/december/january -> closed beta
january -> open beta
feburary/march -> release


and the roadmap shows also that it will most likely be 2013 and not 2012:

looking at the roadmap (that you showed) things are on time, and it will most likely be out by the end of december, thanks for showing me, had forgotten it

oh, and it wont ever be an open beta, when the beta is outm the game is as good as done is what they have said, only thing left then is tweaking. So if closed beta and release is from start of november to start of january, that means the game is out before 2013, following their original plans. (And yes, they are rushing to get things done in time, many things wont be out before march, so expect some bugs, but fewer than legacy)

[Tonkra]

that means the game is out before 2013

eh no?! "goes on sale post-january 2013"


post january means AFTER january..

and as i said.. you cant do just 1 month alpha and 1 month closed beta and release the game afterwards.. thats not possible.. beta needs more than 1 month for a game... and the CBT is followed by an open beta also.

at least it takes 3-4 months for Alpha, CBT and OBT. minimum

and they'll do better with it to take time. of course i cant wait myself.. but better they use more time than releasing it with bugs etc. again. that would be the second fail otherwise

[KiriA500]

It's been stated for a long long time that Legacy members will have a "better" chance at beta access than non legacy members.

It's from a while back, I'll see if I can find it.

Source: http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/2012/06...cks-and-rocks/

GE: Do you have any ideas yet on how will people get into beta?
Yoshida: We decided not to tie it directly to the legacy campaign, but we want to prioritize getting the current players that are playing now into beta.

Unless Yoshi-P decided to pull a 180 on this since E3, it's like I said before, Legacy has no factor into getting into the beta. It's priority for people who currently play over people who may have Legacy but quit as soon as they got it.

[Meatdawg]

I want some of the kool-aid Medura is drinking

[Medura]

eh no?! "goes on sale post-january 2013"


post january means AFTER january..

and as i said.. you cant do just 1 month alpha and 1 month closed beta and release the game afterwards.. thats not possible.. beta needs more than 1 month for a game... and the CBT is followed by an open beta also.

at least it takes 3-4 months for Alpha, CBT and OBT. minimum

and they'll do better with it to take time. of course i cant wait myself.. but better they use more time then release it with bugs etc. again. that would be the second fail otherwise

free trial period starts in december and ends in january, uhm .... why would free trial start before the game is out? please tell me

[KiriA500]

free trial period starts in december and ends in january, uhm .... why would free trial start before the game is out? please tell me

"Free Trial" is the beta test. "Trial" is an awful term to describe it, as it implies the beta is a demo for us to try, not a testing phase.

[mbncd]

I really think 2.0 will just be ready when it's ready. They can't predict when that will be because it depends entirely on how the Alpha and Beta go, how many bugs are found, how serious those bugs are, what other things are deemed broken when accessed by the masses, etc. 1.0 didn't respect the Beta process, they released it before many issues were remedied, and that's how we got into this huge mess from the start. Yoshi has said that he does not want to repeat that mistake. If he stands by that, there is no way to predict when 2.0 will be ready.

As for when the Beta will be ready, I think it will probably be about a month after servers go down if Alpha is primarily for incremental stress tests (starting with just the Japanese and then going out from there with bigger and bigger groups). It still depends on how the Alpha goes though. If the stress tests don't go well, Beta may be pushed back further.