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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    A game should be designed better to where you don't have to stare at a text log the entire fight.
    Pretty much every boss in XIV has visual cues as well.
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    Chances are the only add-ons I'll be using will be cosmetic only. If anything I'll use UI add-ons to remove HUD info when it's in the way.
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    Until they make bosses challenging enough to need an addon for them i wouldn't worry about it. The raven fight is about the only fight at this point where addons might be useful, every other boss has extremely simple mechanics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkamenaDiane View Post
    ARR is going to have user created addons so if someone made a deadly boss mods type addon to help out on FFXIV boss fights would you use it?

    The addon would do stuff like alert you when the boss is about to use a devastating attack, tell you when something should be stunned, tell you to move ahead of time or if your standing in something bad. Have timers for when bosses special moves become available. Those type of things, all done by analyzing the battle log.
    welll it doesn't really give you any advantage over someone who already knows how to do those things, so I wouldn't have a problem with it, but I also wouldn't need it.
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    I wouldn't need it, but if someone makes it I will use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkamenaDiane View Post
    ARR is going to have user created addons so if someone made a deadly boss mods type addon to help out on FFXIV boss fights would you use it?

    The addon would do stuff like alert you when the boss is about to use a devastating attack, tell you when something should be stunned, tell you to move ahead of time or if your standing in something bad. Have timers for when bosses special moves become available. Those type of things, all done by analyzing the battle log.
    i doubt se is capable of making a boss encounter that someone might want dbm for
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    I'd use it.

    When I played WoW, DBM was more of a reminder than anything. It was nice being able to look around, see the work that had been put into the area I was playing in, or being able to track things outside of my immediate job. While it wasn't absolutely necessary to preform my given role, it did enhance my experience nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renen View Post
    Its a troll! RUNN!
    As long as you don't feed is after midnight, it's not harmful.

    So this
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    doesn't turn to this....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Pretty much every boss in XIV has visual cues as well.
    pretty much every boss in XIV is exceedingly simplistic and doesn't really take much to figure out. DBM/BigWigs-style add ons are for things 20x more complex than anything we have in this game, to make the fights slightly more manageable. and before you say "well we don't need it for that either"- apparently we do, given how small a percentage of the playerbase is actually able to beat Rivenroad hard and how categorically easy that fight is compared to the large majority of raid bosses in WoW

    allowing the community to make and use addons like DBM/Bigwigs also enables the devs to design much more challenging content and raise the skill/execution bar on a great number of fights. and as that's something the game sorely lacks currently, raiding enthusiasts generally welcome it.

    as far as the "i don't need DBM mods because i'm not BAD"- lol well you're entitled to your opinion, but i think you've got it twisted. the best raiders are the ones who come prepared. that means having the right tools to analyze and parse the battle and your performance in it, and the right tools to improve/enhance your personal performance in it.

    are you going to boycott food, too? surely if you're sooooo good at this game you don't need the extra 30 accuracy or 40 attack power. you're so elite you can roll through content without it. mega str pots? nope. GC rez items? nope, you don't need that. you don't need any of it.

    in fact, why not just turn off your battle logs altogether? if you're a true gangster you roll without that stuff because you can perform at the highest level without it. and certainly you should never read guides or watch videos before trying a fight.

    food is an option. potions are an option. rez items are an option. reading battle logs is an option. using online resources to better prepare is an option.

    so is using addons.

    so use them or don't. but where does the "i don't need that" logic stop, exactly? it's not like you're cheating if the game not only allows but encourages the use of items or mods.

    your PoV sounds incredibly biased and not completely thought out.




    (as far answering the question posed in the OP- that depends on whether the addon is good/helpful/well-designed or not)
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    Last edited by fusional; 09-25-2012 at 05:51 AM.

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    I would use it, but as an LS leader would I require it? hell no.
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