Dawn Drops = 1 gil

[Wynn]

Exploits arent like hacks or something.. They happen because of oversight.

If I set the sell price of an item to 100 and the buy price to 50. (and it was an accident) I just created an exploit, totally allowed by the system.

They said more gil is coming in then expected. They really meant it because they did a hotfix twice, thats how bad it was.

I get you saying they may have expected SOME money to come in. But you cant say they intended that much to come in because they SAID they didnt intend it.

If I intended a system where you make 100 gil but you made 10,000 gil - even though I inteded money I didnt intended that much - its an exploit.

The fact that they did a hotfix twice just proves they didn't care about the gil situation for a week. If they cared about people doing it they would have made this change when they took out the extra clusters. It's not like they didn't know it was going on. They did nothing at all to stop the exchange of seals for gil until now and that is only because it was "more than they expected."

[Shougun]

The fact that they did a hotfix twice just proves they didn't care about the gil situation for a week. If they cared about people doing it they would have made this change when they took out the extra clusters. It's not like they didn't know it was going on. They did nothing at all to stop the exchange of seals for gil until now and that is only because it was "more than they expected."

Thats not because they wanted it that way. Obviously they didnt. Do you see their solution? Change the gil making items to 1 gil.

They are just being slow and or ineffective about exploits.

[Wynn]

Thats not because they wanted it that way. Obviously they didnt. Do you see their solution? Change the gil making items to 1 gil.

They are just being slow and or ineffective about exploits.

That doesn't make any sense.

They immediately fixed the cluster problem. If this was such an exploit, such a no-no that they in no way intended, they could have immediately dealt with it then. They didn't because it was ok with them.

Now they see it was getting out of hand and had to flip the switch. Doesn't mean its an exploit and also doesn't mean they didn't feel it was ok at the beginning for people to do it.

[Shougun]

That doesn't make any sense.

They immediately fixed the cluster problem. If this was such an exploit, such a no-no that they in no way intended, they could have immediately dealt with it then. They didn't because it was ok with them.

Now they see it was getting out of hand and had to flip the switch. Doesn't mean its an exploit and also doesn't mean they didn't feel it was ok at the beginning for people to do it.

This is going to be one of those infinite agree to disgree things.

I dont feel like its fair to other players. I have made money off of the event - because I dont want to be left (entirely) behind. However I still think they should take all the money made off it away - making sure to give the seals earned back.

My bottom line is they allowed a system that printed too much money into circulation too quickly - I dont want to see economic problems in 1.0 or 2.0 (economic problems are retarded... because its supposed to be a video game not economics class).

[Antipika]

. However I still think they should take all the money made off it away - making sure to give the seals earned back.

It's impossible to do that without a large scale rollback. And seeing how SE fails at manipulating character data due to the current version of the game being poorly coded, that will never happen.

Taken money back at a large scale without a rollback is not possible for a simple reason. That money may be already traded or spent. What if I made 10 millions and purchased materia with the money from the wards and melded it into a my weapon? Cannot undo that.

[Shougun]

It's impossible to do that without a large scale rollback. And seeing how SE fails at manipulating character data due to the current version of the game being poorly coded, that will never happen.

Taken money back at a large scale without a rollback is not possible for a simple reason. That money may be already traded or spent. What if I made 10 millions and purchased materia with the money from the wards and melded it into a my weapon? Cannot undo that.

I'll take this argument. I was thinking about how they had to take down the server just to modify item data.

Its possible they dont even have the proper tools to do any sort of large scale modification. A shame, but quite possible. (Its fairly complex but not impossible to have a program follow the chains of action and revert each action, gil spent here return item - its more computer time consuming (takes a long time to process so much data even though its a program), but you'd only have to write the program once)

I really hope they build the tools in 2.0.