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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    What? o.o

    Did you not just read the quote that I posted?
    They said the gil inflow recently has been more then expected. Then they go on to say they where watching gil inflow from seals particularly and they where not pleased.

    They are not correlated exactly, and if they where (since perhaps its subjective how you read that sentence) then they should have had more forethought. Its quite easy to see thousands of seals coming in for a low gil cost high gil return is not good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    They said the gil inflow recently has been more then expected. Then they go on to say they where watching gil inflow from seals particularly and they where not pleased.

    They are not correlated exactly.
    Are you reading the same quote I am?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Are you reading the same quote I am?
    Edited my post while you quoted lol:

    "They are not correlated exactly, and if they where (since perhaps its subjective how you read that sentence) then they should have had more forethought. Its quite easy to see thousands of seals coming in for a low gil cost high gil return is not good."



    Still lets assume they expected some money to be made.

    They admitted it was a lot more then what they expected; therefore, still unintended.

    If SE accidently gave everyone A through F characters max gil even though its their fault they still have an obligation to fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Edited my post while you quoted lol:

    "They are not correlated exactly, and if they where (since perhaps its subjective how you read that sentence) then they should have had more forethought. Its quite easy to see thousands of seals coming in for a low gil cost high gil return is not good."



    Still lets assume they expected some money to be made.

    They admitted it was a lot more then what they expected; therefore, still unintended.
    Still not an exploit either. They specifically allowed for this kind of transaction to occur. It isn't the player base's fault that the amount of money gained was higher than they expected to see.

    It would be one thing if it was a coding error where dawn drops had always meant to be sold for 1gil but were selling for much more and the people that knew this created a ton of money from it.

    It is quite another when they actually were meant to be sold for that and SE knowingly and deliberately injected an event into the game that basically gave you free seals that could be exchanged for the aforementioned items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Still not an exploit either. They specifically allowed for this kind of transaction to occur. It isn't the player base's fault that the amount of money gained was higher than they expected to see.

    It would be one thing if it was a coding error where dawn drops had always meant to be sold for 1gil but were selling for much more and the people that knew this created a ton of money from it.

    It is quite another when they actually were meant to be sold for that and SE knowingly and deliberately injected an event into the game that basically gave you free seals that could be exchanged for the aforementioned items.

    Exploits don't have to be coding errors. Technically exploits are just using something to maximum efficiency. So its weird we use this word. Anyway - just because its allowed by code doesn't mean its not an exploit.

    FF11 - Buy an item for X price resell for a higher price. Totally allowed by game engine code - all fault to the devs for messing up the values. It was an exploit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Exploits don't have to be coding errors. Technically exploits are just using something to maximum efficiency. So its weird we use this word. Anyway - just because its allowed by code doesn't mean its not an exploit.

    FF11 - Buy an item for X price resell for a higher price. Totally allowed by game engine code - all fault to the devs for messing up the values. It was an exploit.
    That's a silly definition. It's also untrue. That would mean every "hardcore" player in any MMO ever is an exploiter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    That's a silly definition. It's also untrue. That would mean every "hardcore" player in any MMO ever is an exploiter.

    I dont make up the words:

    ex·ploit/ikˈsploit/
    Verb:
    Make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource): "500 companies sprang up to exploit this new technology".
    Noun:
    A bold or daring feat: "the most heroic and secretive exploits of the war".


    But I agree with you, thats why I said its weird we use the word.
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