A civilized opinion and discussion of what I think is happening with ARR vs 1.0

[Darkhaund]

Rokien... those hopefully dont turn out like Tera and Aoin

I am not agaiinst the game being more "popular" but I do not want to to stop being what a Final Fantasy should be.

Me and some of my LS friens are considering going back to 11 if this ends up being super wow-esq

[Shougun]

Quest Grinding, this is exactly what it means. The same quest 720 times in each city and quest hub you visit.

Yep, loooots of it lol. I wonder if they will even make leveling crafter/gatherer the same. (Though both crafter and gatherer near the end level best on leve's in 1.0 anyways).

[Platinumstorm]

[QUOTE=Shougun;836596]Besides the new grid zone, all I see are still empty fields (with hardly any flora..) lol

I don't think we've seen enough of any area to really make judgements, for whatever reason. Gridania is clearly more diverse now, however.

[Shougun]

I don't think we've seen enough of any area to really make judgements, for whatever reason. Gridania is clearly more diverse now, however.

I hope you are right. Since we found out the video made is old I'll hold my grass pitch fork. But I doubt they will use flora any better then they already are - then I prepare for battle.. .

[Elexia]

Yep, loooots of it lol. I wonder if they will even make leveling crafter/gatherer the same. (Though both crafter and gatherer near the end level best on leve's in 1.0 anyways).

Probably but after DoH/DoL leveling in 1.0..that I wouldn't mind the mass produced quests for lol.

[Platinumstorm]

That is what I AM AFFRAID.... like somone mentioned WoW has rich lore but fails MISERABLY at story telling.

Tell me.. how many of you really loved FFXI's story telling?
CoP was amazing and os was WotG. I loved that about 11 and So far the way the story is presented here is great.

WoW, Rift and those games are basically:

"go kill A mob and gather X number of horns etc" rinse and repeat.

Do we ant that in ARR?

I think you're worrying too much about the story. FFXIV will likely continue the story presentation, and accessibility of the story [something FFXI lacked] while including those quests you are dreading. Some of the sidequests currently in the game have interesting lore behind them. If you're worried about anything regarding the story, however, perhaps be worried about the quality of writing for the stories. There was a large thread that said the text in the game was too difficult for players to read/comprehend about half a year ago.

I also think you're simplifying the Warcraft experience. Garbage quests are there to guide you through the leveling process and explore the world [just like in Xenoblade Chronicles], but you're really interacting with them for a small minority of your gameplay experience if you partake in their max level gaming options. I'll still agree with you that WoW has great lore but Metzen can't string that lore together to make a story, and it isn't just WoW that has suffered from it, but SC2 and Diablo 3 as well.

[Shougun]

Probably but after DoH/DoL leveling in 1.0..that I wouldn't mind the mass produced quests for lol.

I would really like "quest, quests" for DoL/DoH things that slide in naturally. Like go find this object (or you can make it), our fishing rig has lost some employees due to a pirate scare - go onto the rig and get some fishes (then they can have storm sequences and fun stuff). Woodcutting race start some classic FF battle music give some unique abilities and have like a battle with you and the tree. Fishing/mining for the fat fish/ore (Zelda anyone?).



Or even little TD's and such for the crafters, SE has made minigames before. I really really wouldnt mind them making meta/mini games. (So long as they dont forgot to polish the main game in the process).

There are a lot of little things they could do to mix up the same old same old.

[Elexia]

I think you're worrying too much about the story. FFXIV will likely continue the story presentation, and accessibility of the story [something FFXI lacked]

I'm sorry..what? You can do the majority of XI's missions as you ranked and leveled up, the only mission lines that weren't easily accessible to low level players were ToAU and WoTG lines. The rest everyone could do.

[Darkhaund]

Platinumstorm

I agree but still i think that FF has itś nich, and it was because of that, that this game survived. Any other MMO would have been canned by now. So the very fact that they seem to be dirfting away from that, rises my fear that this game will finallyl fail.

I also agree with the WoW SC and Diablo "factor"!
Some of the sides quests here are AMAZING. Heck the latest hildibrand one is awesome.

[TypeZ]

Rokien... those hopefully dont turn out like Tera and Aoin

I am not agaiinst the game being more "popular" but I do not want to to stop being what a Final Fantasy should be.

Me and some of my LS friens are considering going back to 11 if this ends up being super wow-esq

same here.