Cartoony style graphics....

[Rokien]

Ok, talked it over with my friends, the problem with these graphics are, they are less grainy the faces is SMOOTH as can be, no pores or whatever. also the colors are, more vibrant? which isn't a bad thing, though, the world isn't as vibrant in colors... soo that creats a blah mesh of different styles.

[Gramul]

Ok, talked it over with my friends, the problem with these graphics are, they are less grainy the faces is SMOOTH as can be, no pores or whatever. also the colors are, more vibrant? which isn't a bad thing, though, the world isn't as vibrant in colors... soo that creats a blah mesh of different styles.

I'm actually noticing a distinct lack of bump and displacement maps. They may have yet to add those specific shaders.

Or maybe they dropped them altogether.

[SydeBeheln]

The new trailer kinda crosses the border into cell shading. In some of the screens.

[Dargoth_Draconia]

But why would they do that for a trailer?

Why would they? Easy answer is so players who don't have a so great system will know what to expect when they get the game, we kept hearing about low end PCs going to be able to play 2.0 and some would wonder what that would look like. Though Indie has a good point with that being the same trailer etc.

[Shougun]

Why would they? Easy answer is so players who don't have a so great system will know what to expect when they get the game, we kept hearing about low end PCs going to be able to play 2.0 and some would wonder what that would look like. Though Indie has a good point with that being the same trailer etc.

I'd still go with Gramul's why?

Because... if they are showing what low end systems can do - they are showing that not only does it not look as good but it also lags.

I just want to clarify because I know some may see it as an attack on SE. This isnt (for me) a hate on SE kind of thing, I want SE to do well - so I dont want them to be showing stuff thats not going to help them out. This would be something that didnt really help them. It also casues worry if thats representive of the game in general.

As someone has stated (Wynn I think) it would be wonderful if they could just show us the best screenshots they can do - the every system on full AA full post processing ambient occlusion, dof, max vision kind of thing.

Perhaps they arent ready for that - but since they are working on a game that is being played currently. Players are far more connected to the development process then usual. They need to keep a very close line of communication to us. Like weekly if not more kind of updates.

We are chomping at the bit - but dont make us weary - we want to share the awesome news and videos and subside concerns that appear in the forums through factual developer information. Cant do that if we dont know shit lol.

[Alerith]

What is this awful trend...

Rokien makes a silly topic. Forum community tries to turn the topic into something we can ACTUALLY discuss. This discussion usually goes well until Rokien once again opens his mouth.

Nggghffffff....

[Rokien]

What is this awful trend...

Rokien makes a silly topic. Forum community tries to turn the topic into something we can ACTUALLY discuss. This discussion usually goes well until Rokien once again opens his mouth.

Nggghffffff....

whaaat? you should try and stop trolling like the other half.

[Seif]

I know everyone is going to say "Oh My... Gawd"

But look at the grass here in the desert, and then go look at the grass in La Noseca areas (in 2.0 trailers)...

Why does La Noseca the super green plains have less grass then the desert? lol

I don't know why everybody is so hung up on these minor details when that LN are looks really bland in general. I really hope they've done more than add one 3d model to it because based on what they've shown us it looks just as boring as the current version.

Meanwhile Gridania looks stunning. The dip in quality between these 2 areas is shocking even when comparing 2 stills.

[Shougun]

I don't know why everybody is so hung up on these minor details when that LN are looks really bland in general. I really hope they've done more than add one 3d model to it because based on what they've shown us it looks just as boring as the current version.

Meanwhile Gridania looks stunning. The dip in quality between these 2 areas is shocking even when comparing 2 stills.

I dont think too many people care but since terrain is my hobby its something I look at closely.

And total aesthetics are important, having a cohesive environment while it doesn't seem like much will mean a lot in the end.

The little things add up.

Also totally agree about the grid area, in love with it. Uldah area looks a bit conflicting its a oasis but not quite its not sure what it is.

LN I think needs more flora - and some more Z activity*. A problem i've noticed in both FF MMO's is they dont really build much in the Z axis, everything is rather planer. Grid could be the easiest to prove they are brave enough to build very Z wise (as they have a little), but it still appears they have two very flat expanses.

*I feel that they would almost benefit most from using a more Iceland (environment) influence color scheme for La Noseca (which right now is like a slightly retextured grid).

[Rannie]

Why would you want more flora in it LN is considered a plains/plateau. Very rarely do you see more than just grass in a plains area.