Atomos: Major annoyance for new players

[Jaimie]

Muhahahaha

[Preypacer]

Lol
I don't have every job to 50 for the simple reason that this game is BROKEN, and I have spent some of my "gaming time" playing other games.
Gratz on the paragon crown. Why do you mention that? Elitist pig maybe ? IDGAF about your levels gil or crowns, what I do care about is your attitude with regard to helping new players.

P.S. I'm on Balmung now, and I gotz a macro just for people like you

/beckon motion
/em gives <t> a slap to the side of the head.

What is your deal? "Elitist pigs"? Are you for real?

How many people in this thread have given suggestions and helpful advice to the new players on how Atomos works and how to avoid it? How many people (myself included) have pointed out that it's not just new players who get killed by him, but people of all levels, vets included? That new players aren't being singled out or being treated unfairly here?

If I stroll into Camp Blackbrush on my level 50 DRG while Atomos is there, do you think I'll stand any better of a chance of surviving than a level 1 once a mob or two decide to latch on to me? No. It'll take a couple more hits, but I'm just as dead.

I'm going to be working on THM more in the next few days. It's currently level 7. That means I'll be having to use those same Aetheryte camps as everyone else, Atomos with it. Should I be all outraged that there's a chance I might die if I happen to not be paying attention and teleport back at the wrong time? I don't think so, because I have been given the information I need to make sure that don't happen. It's 100% in my control. I have more chance of dying while doing the leve itself.

It is very easy to avoid Atomos once you know when he spawns, and having to avoid a camp for maybe 10 minutes out of every hour is not going to ruin anyone's day - of course unless they're determined to let it, which seems to be the case with some around here.

There is absolutely nothing elitist about giving new players advice on this. There's absolutely nothing elitist about pointing out that it's not just newbies being affected by it. There's absolutely nothing elitist about pointing out that it's an event happening twice an hour, about 10 minutes apart with roughly 50 minutes of safe time in between. There's absolutely nothing elitist about me pointing out earlier in the thread that up 'til some days ago, I never even encountered Atomos, much less died from him, and I was back and forth to those camps quite frequently.

The advice given to the new players is the same exact advice veteran players have to use if they want to avoid it as well.

Are some people being jerks around here? Of course. Welcome to gaming forums in general. That has nothing to do with being "elitist jerks", though. New players have as much capacity for being jerks as any vet does.

So, please, get off your high horse and quit with the mud-slinging. It isn't warranted.

[Jaimie]

Preypacer read the thread from the start. See the comments from the vets.

My "elitist pigs" reference is to those sarcastic negative comments. In other posts, I have said there are friendly, helpfull "vets", but it has been my experience, that they are a minority ESPECIALLY IN GAME.

And remember, 2.0 is coming, and it WILL NEED new players. Without new players, 2.0 won't be able to survive financially.

[Xakery]

Preypacer read the thread from the start. See the comments from the vets.

My "elitist pigs" reference is to those sarcastic negative comments. In other posts, I have said there are friendly, helpfull "vets", but it has been my experience, that they are a minority ESPECIALLY IN GAME.

And remember, 2.0 is coming, and it WILL NEED new players. Without new players, 2.0 won't be able to survive financially.

lol that's cute. I'm glad to see a few of you are so bent on SE relying on new people.
From what I normally see, new people come on this game, bitch and whine that they aren't end game from day 1, piss off the vets or bug them to death, then quit if their efforts are in vain and go play some f2p mmo.
People who have stuck with this game will continue to stand by this game, give helpful feedback to the changes, and help lead this game into a new era.
How many people remember when we had a cool down on attack time and their was no auto-attack? xD Keep believing what you want. Hopefully you'll put your money where your mouth is and will stay. Good luck!

[Ingolf]

Lol
I don't have every job to 50 for the simple reason that this game is BROKEN, and I have spent some of my "gaming time" playing other games.
Gratz on the paragon crown. Why do you mention that? Elitist pig maybe ? IDGAF about your levels gil or crowns, what I do care about is your attitude with regard to helping new players.

P.S. I'm on Balmung now, and I gotz a macro just for people like you

/beckon motion
/em gives <t> a slap to the side of the head.

hah, noob.

[Mamba]

From what I normally see, new people come on this game, bitch and whine that they aren't end game from day 1, piss off the vets or bug them to death, then quit if their efforts are in vain and go play some f2p mmo.
People who have stuck with this game will continue to stand by this game, give helpful feedback to the changes, and help lead this game into a new era.

So in other words, only vets will end up playing FFXIV as all new people will just quit and go play other games?
Lol well done XD

[Xakery]

So in other words, only vets will end up playing FFXIV as all new people will just quit and go play other games?
Lol well done XD

no, the new people who just want want want and not willing to work will quit. The others will find a home, hopefully, in this remarkable game.

[Kinseykinz]

First off, this has gotten way off-topic. All of the 'how to avoid/why is this happening at low-level camps' questions have been answered.

That said:

Attitude and how you present yourself is everything. Many of the 'vets' did in fact answer the OP's question, yes, some made silly comments etc...although most of the 'silly comments' were based on the 3rd or 4th response being a joke the average newer player took offense to. (Seriously, he WAS teasing, but yes, the end of the world probably should at least mildly inconvience us all).

But the OP was also on the whiny side...no, they didn't just whine the whole post, but basically, they said 'why is this at my low-level camp...it's unfair'. They could have approached it better and instead been like 'Anyone know how to avoid Atmos at the lower level camps? I'm trying to level and he's eating me.' I can promise, the responses would have been helpful, clear and their would have been little to no trolling. Again, both styles of posting got the correct answers, just one invites more attacks than the other.

Also, overall, it's NOT the veterans being rude and arrogant towards the 'newer' players. It's the newer players stirring it up and causing all the name calling. I think the bigger issue with those who are being rude towards vets is that you think they have 'everything' and you have 'nothing'. One of you even said that you don't have a Paragons Crown because you didn't enjoy playing this game when it 'sucked' That's a fair statement, however you can't 'not have played for months' and then expect to be at the same place as those who have.

Look, yes, we need new players to help this game grow....but you all need us too. We help keep the gears/crafting items you can't farm/gather/craft yet in the markets, we know the answers to your questions/ we can help on quests. And many of us do all of this. But at the same time, we can't be expected to do it constantly, nor are we as willing to go out of our way to help the person ALWAYS asking for help...we prefer to help the people who only ask for help as needed but who otherwise, solve their problems themselves. Depending on which side of this fence you are on, you will find vets to be 'nice' or 'mean' BTW, even vets can't always find groups to clear the content they wish to clear.

But none of this has anything to do with Atmos...those questions have been answered:
1. Go to a different camp
2. Walk if he spawns
3. Don't go to 'Atmos' camps between 18:00-00:00
4. Everyone is affected the same
5. Everyone who can get to an 'orange' camp can get the goodies.

[Xakery]

First off, this has gotten way off-topic. All of the 'how to avoid/why is this happening at low-level camps' questions have been answered.

That said:

Attitude and how you present yourself is everything. Many of the 'vets' did in fact answer the OP's question, yes, some made silly comments etc...although most of the 'silly comments' were based on the 3rd or 4th response being a joke the average newer player took offense to. (Seriously, he WAS teasing, but yes, the end of the world probably should at least mildly inconvience us all).

But the OP was also on the whiny side...no, they didn't just whine the whole post, but basically, they said 'why is this at my low-level camp...it's unfair'. They could have approached it better and instead been like 'Anyone know how to avoid Atmos at the lower level camps? I'm trying to level and he's eating me.' I can promise, the responses would have been helpful, clear and their would have been little to no trolling. Again, both styles of posting got the correct answers, just one invites more attacks than the other.

Also, overall, it's NOT the veterans being rude and arrogant towards the 'newer' players. It's the newer players stirring it up and causing all the name calling. I think the bigger issue with those who are being rude towards vets is that you think they have 'everything' and you have 'nothing'. One of you even said that you don't have a Paragons Crown because you didn't enjoy playing this game when it 'sucked' That's a fair statement, however you can't 'not have played for months' and then expect to be at the same place as those who have.

Look, yes, we need new players to help this game grow....but you all need us too. We help keep the gears/crafting items you can't farm/gather/craft yet in the markets, we know the answers to your questions/ we can help on quests. And many of us do all of this. But at the same time, we can't be expected to do it constantly, nor are we as willing to go out of our way to help the person ALWAYS asking for help...we prefer to help the people who only ask for help as needed but who otherwise, solve their problems themselves. Depending on which side of this fence you are on, you will find vets to be 'nice' or 'mean' BTW, even vets can't always find groups to clear the content they wish to clear.

But none of this has anything to do with Atmos...those questions have been answered:
1. Go to a different camp
2. Walk if he spawns
3. Don't go to 'Atmos' camps between 18:00-00:00
4. Everyone is affected the same
5. Everyone who can get to an 'orange' camp can get the goodies.

and the thread should close on the above statement wow very good job! *breathes* Now let's all go to Eorzea's newest restaurant KFD (Kentucky Fried Drake) and laugh

[Norack]

How dare you play FFXIV and not have every single job at lv.50. For shame on you!!!!!

P.S my sig is off i have everything lv.50 ^.^ (do you believe me?)