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  1. #521
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    In the stock market this would be the equivalent of a 10 to 1 reverse stock split. Every 10 shares turn into 1 so the amount of actual shares that you hold drops but the price per share rises in order to maintain the overall value of it.

    Personally I would not hold securities through a reverse split (like what happened with THQ in July) but that's another conversation entirely.

    Key words in bold for those having difficulties understanding the matter.
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  2. #522
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    Mireille Celestine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    you understand math but not economy

    Here I think you are missing the basic point that a person having invested a certain amount of time in the goal of earning X amount by the launch of 2.0 might not find that same time investment a worthwhile trade for the lesser sum even though that lesser sum has the same buying power. I think most of us get that its exactly the same as if they reduced the level cap from 99 to 10, and then reduced us all from 50 to 5. If they change all the mob levels commensurately its as if you are still a level 50 at level 5. I do understand that both logically and mathematically, but the point that you are missing is that if I had known up front this was going to happen I would have spent a large part of the last two years on other in game goals, and I would have spent more of the gil I was saving instead of making do with normal quality crafted gear in the name of that saving. I passed up doing other things like avatars and dungeons to make that gil, and that just became a poor trade. Yes even though the gil I am left with can in theory buy as much.

    What I am saying may not be popular, but I haven't been uncivil in this to anyone who wasn't uncivil to me. In my two years on these forums I have made it a point to be both nice, and understanding towards other posters and SE.
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  3. #523
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    I pay monthly fee to play this game, I don't pay a monthly fee to have stuff removed from my account, that is about as basic a concept I can put for you guys to understand. Yes literal value is the only thing that matters about this thread. Because I am literally going to lose my electronic items.
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  4. #524
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Its worth 10x as much as it was before. Its translated currency to a new denomination. Nothing you have earned is being lost because the change is universal.
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  5. #525
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    I like this post ^ (Mireille of course)
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  6. #526
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    The only people that are fine with this are the poor ones. The people that have busted their chops making a bank for themselves are the ones that suffer. Thanks for punishing your core players, SE
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  7. #527
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    Lyndel Qa'tre
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    You are hopeless. You are getting your 10 1 dollar bills taken away and given a 10 dollar bill and screaming "NO! ITS NOT AS MANY MONEYZ SO IT CANT BE AS GOOD!"


    And your time ISNT wasted. You're still going to have a relatively large amount of money more than other players if you've been money making. Not only is the entire gil in the economy being reduced by 90%, but all of the sources to make that money are being reduced by 90%.

    You have a 10 dollar bill now, not 10 ones. There should be no emotional loss, or disparaging feelings of any kind.
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  8. #528
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    Deakka Elsmeth
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    My brain can't handle all the people who don't understand this change...

    It just can't. It's almost like you guys who are fighting it just got out of a Romney rally, and you're ready to start putting the poor in stocks because your net value changed 0%!
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  9. #529
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    J'hyan Tia
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    Reiterating what someone else already said:

    "We're turning your 4 quarters into 1 dollar."
    "Wait, 1 is less than 4, I'm losing my hard-earned money!"

    They are literally, LITERALLY doing this and only this, ladies and gentlemen.

    "...but what if people continue to sell items for 8,000,000 quarters like before?!"

    Welp, we'll see how long their prices stay that high, won't we?
    (Spoiler Alert: Not very long.)
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  10. #530
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mireille View Post
    Here I think you are missing the basic point that a person having invested a certain amount of time in the goal of earning X amount by the launch of 2.0 might not find that same time investment a worthwhile trade for the lesser sum even though that lesser sum has the same buying power. I think most of us get that its exactly the same as if they reduced the level cap from 99 to 10, and then reduced us all from 50 to 5. If they change all the mob levels commensurately its as if you are still a level 50 at level 5. I do understand that both logically and mathematically, but the point that you are missing is that if I had known up front this was going to happen I would have spent a large part of the last two years on other in game goals, and I would have spent more of the gil I was saving instead of making do with normal quality crafted gear in the name of that saving. I passed up doing other things like avatars and dungeons to make that gil, and that just became a poor trade. Yes even though the gil I am left with can in theory buy as much.

    What I am saying may not be popular, but I haven't been uncivil in this to anyone who wasn't uncivil to me. In my two years on these forums I have made it a point to be both nice, and understanding towards other posters and SE.
    I don't agree with you and you're wrong in the end but I like the post.

    I'm fine with this change and I'm pushing 22m. Soon to be 2.2m.
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    - Kurokikaze
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