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    Vanguard319's Avatar
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    I've returned! First I find pants, then Louisoix dies for sending me to the void.
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    Uni Neko
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    Archer Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    If you are trying to make motion it is on you to give good reason why. And as far as im concerned "it costs money and I think im cool for paying it, makes me l33t" is not a good reason.

    More reasonable points to take down:
    Gilsink lost - carpteners are getting housing items
    Realism lost - Its easy to argue this one either way and I think this is the best bet for argument
    Dunno why I'm even going to grace this with an answer...

    where the hell in my argument did I EVER say I was rich or was leet?!?! If you really must know I currently have less than 100k on my char right now, and the most I've ever had in this game at any time was 3 million gil (which is not much in this game) and I still have no problem affording ammunition for my bard, I have yet to beat garuda or van darnus on hard or even extreme mode yet, I hardly consider myself leet. I used myself as an example, but I'm pretty sure there are plenty of main job arcs/brds who got to level 50, and never once cursed the fact that they had to buy ammo.

    Also, justifying getting rid of something because you think it is archaic or outdated is just concieted of you. As I stated before, no one has given a good reason to get rid of the feature. (and given that you keep repeating the same garbage, it's unlikely there is one) Until I hear otherwise from say a mod or a dev, I say to you again: I win, debate over, goodbye.
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    Dunno why I'm even going to grace this with an answer...

    where the hell in my argument did I EVER say I was rich or was leet?!?! If you really must know I currently have less than 100k on my char right now, and the most I've ever had in this game at any time was 3 million gil (which is not much in this game) and I still have no problem affording ammunition for my bard, I have yet to beat garuda or van darnus on hard or even extreme mode yet, I hardly consider myself leet. I used myself as an example, but I'm pretty sure there are plenty of main job arcs/brds who got to level 50, and never once cursed the fact that they had to buy ammo.

    Also, justifying getting rid of something because you think it is archaic or outdated is just concieted of you. As I stated before, no one has given a good reason to get rid of the feature. (and given that you keep repeating the same garbage, it's unlikely there is one) Until I hear otherwise from say a mod or a dev, I say to you again: I win, debate over, goodbye.
    Im sorry did you say I win again?

    Also never said you are rich, just said the "I did it so everyone else has to" complaint is useless. And unlike you I dont have to provide a reason why its gone, so it doesn't matter what I say (arrows are gone because chocolate tastes good, just a dandy reason for you). Since SE has removed it and you are complaining its gone, you have to give reason and petition it back.

    Since you cant, I must win (according to your logic)
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    Deakka Elsmeth
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    Dunno why I'm even going to grace this with an answer...

    where the hell in my argument did I EVER say I was rich or was leet?!?! If you really must know I currently have less than 100k on my char right now, and the most I've ever had in this game at any time was 3 million gil (which is not much in this game) and I still have no problem affording ammunition for my bard, I have yet to beat garuda or van darnus on hard or even extreme mode yet, I hardly consider myself leet. I used myself as an example, but I'm pretty sure there are plenty of main job arcs/brds who got to level 50, and never once cursed the fact that they had to buy ammo.

    Also, justifying getting rid of something because you think it is archaic or outdated is just concieted of you. As I stated before, no one has given a good reason to get rid of the feature. (and given that you keep repeating the same garbage, it's unlikely there is one) Until I hear otherwise from say a mod or a dev, I say to you again: I win, debate over, goodbye.
    Wow... the "I win" stuff should have stayed in second grade in my opinion. You've yet to even address the system, other than the fact of "I did it, so should everyone else". Just because a system limps on and functions does not mean it's a good system. Tell me with a straight face you enjoy spending an hour a week (rough estimate) or the equivalent in gil to get your arrows. I can tell you, unless you're nuts, you don't enjoy it. Your only defense of the system is that it works now. There's always room to change it for the better. As of now, it's a chore.

    MMO's are focusing more on real content rather than chore based gameplay.

    *Edit* And it's not just a few people here on forums who think the system is outdated. The industry as a whole has moved away from consumable ammo within the past few years. They realized that no matter how much immersion there is or minor economy flow (since it's not a gil sink to begin with unless you use only vendor arrows), chores like this only serve to add to player burnout.
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    Last edited by Deakka; 09-18-2012 at 10:02 AM. Reason: Added paragraph, also bacon