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  1. #341
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trotsky View Post
    I've never vocally supported this change. Before, I thought it was purely cosmetic change, like, you won't be able to carry more than 99M at once, so the rest will have to go to retainer or bank or something. But this has turned out to be a completely different thing altogether.

    Also, I don't have 100M+, not even close. Wasn't playing for that long, so even a million is a significant sum for me. Players like me are the ones who are gonna be hurt by this change the most, since we haven't had the chance yet to invest a lot of money in gear.
    Except, you're not actually gonna be hurt at all...

    Lol this is getting to be too much. At this point I think I've tried too hard to spread the light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trotsky View Post
    I've never vocally supported this change. Before, I thought it was purely cosmetic change, like, you won't be able to carry more than 99M at once, so the rest will have to go to retainer or bank or something. But this has turned out to be a completely different thing altogether.

    Also, I don't have 100M+, not even close. Wasn't playing for that long, so even a million is a significant sum for me. Players like me are the ones who are gonna be hurt by this change the most, since we haven't had the chance yet to invest a lot of money in gear.
    But prices of things you buy will be reduced by the same ratio....why dont people understand this lol
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  3. #343
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    The only people raging are the jealous individuals sitting with under 100mil who think everyone over 100mil should lose money so that they can "catch up". I doubt anyone over 100mil is raging, we understand economics. You don't get rich if you've no clue how the market works.

    Quote Originally Posted by Munba View Post
    This is going to ruin partially the carpenter job. Not so good move imo..
    How? They're implementing housing and that will be a big thing for CRP with furniture. They're just changing how CRP makes its money. Not that I ever saw arrows worth making in large quantities for money to begin with. Weapons were the big thing for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    the thing was people liked it originally because they thought people only over 100mil would be affected. they were basically saying well screw them because they worked harder and made more than i did. now that they find out that they lose theirs also it does affect them so they are talking about quitting.

    i'm one of the rich and the only complaint i had was that if they took a portion of mine they should do it across the board which they have now stated that is what's happening. since it's happening to everyone i'm fine with it. i just didn't like feeling like the people that actually took the time to make gil were being penalized. how would you have felt if you had 999,999,999 and someone else had 99,999,999 and you lost 900,000,000 and they lost nothing?
    I see where you're coming from but I have no horse in the race either way, I'm not 'raging' that all of our gil is getting cut into 1/10th, I've never said I was going to quit. I just don't get the justification of why they're doing it in the first place. They say it's based off of arrow prices and that since arrows are going away they're cutting everything 90%. It just seem like a very vague and honestly odd reason to justify cutting everyone's gil by 90%. If they just said "We want to lose the extra digit, you're losing 90% of your gil but everything is also losing 90% of its value, we're SE so ya know deal with it" it'd be more upfront than some explantion involving arrows, because according to them, that's the only reason they're doing it.
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  5. #345
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    But the point is no one is getting hurt here... Gil and npc prices will both be going down. The only thing that might be bad is if in 2.0 sellers are dumb and don't reduce their prices. This should be a short term problem since people who understand what is going on will reduce their prices to a reasonable level and the overpriced stuff just won't sell.
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  6. #346
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFrozenOne View Post
    I'm not raging about anything, I'm simply asking what's the point? If it has no bearing on anything and no one should care about it, it comes to the point of why change it in the first place?
    I get this part:

    "However, we're doing this so that when we launch A Realm Reborn and support it for many years to come, it will be easier to play with a more realistic sense of value than just having huge economical digits just because."

    Little fuzzy on:

    "The whole reason for this change is to rectify the increase in cost of items relative to the price of arrows, since archers in A Realm Reborn will no longer need arrows. I'd like to make it clear that we have no other agenda in wanting to reduce the amount of gil everyone has currently. "
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    The people outraged and screaming about this need to sit down and take an intro to economics course... Seriously.

    HAY GUYS. SRSLY GUYS. YO SRSLY GUYS. IT'S ALL OVER! OMFG

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  8. #348
    Player Shosasosa's Avatar
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    so does this mean that the currency related achievements will also be cut down 1/10? or is it going to be 10 times hard to get that 100 million gil achievement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shosasosa View Post
    so does this mean that the currency related achievements will also be cut down 1/10? or is it going to be 10 times hard to get that 100 million gil achievement?
    Excellent concern, I'd hope they modify the achievement as well.
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  10. #350
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyretta_Blaze View Post
    But the point is no one is getting hurt here... Gil and npc prices will both be going down. The only thing that might be bad is if in 2.0 sellers are dumb and don't reduce their prices. This should be a short term problem since people who understand what is going on will reduce their prices to a reasonable level and the overpriced stuff just won't sell.
    it won't be the sellers that's the problem if they don't lower the prices. if the buyers are still buying at pre-change prices then sellers are going to keep selling it there. the only real time the sellers would be dumb is if people STOPPED buying for anything above 10% the price it was before, but we all know that you will never convince some people from doing it.

    after the change the value of things will change. some items will become more important than before since people won't have as much disposable income to waste. some will become less important for the same reason though too so it will average out there. the more important will not decrease as much as the less important ones will as far as selling price.
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