ARR Gil Cap Reduction

[Camate]

Happy Monday everyone!

I have quite a lengthy follow-up from Yoshi-P in regards to question about gil that he answered during last week's Producer Letter LIVE.

Hello! Producer/Director Yoshida here.

I would like to clarify the announcement I made the other day during the Letter from the Producer LIVE in regards to devaluation by reducing digits of gil by one. However, as I mentioned, we will be making an announcement on Topics about this, so please wait just a bit more for the final details.

1. The prices of NPC goods and how much they pay for your items in A Realm Reborn will be 1/10th of the price currently.
2. The amount of gil received as rewards for content and monster drops in A Realm Reborn will be 1/10th of what they are currently.
3. All items current being sold with a single-digit value of gil will either have their sale values modified or be removed from the game. (Items removed from the game will be automatically converted to their value in gil, which will be calculated as 1/10th of their current value)
4. Due to the large scale changes in battle specs, the value of items in A Realm Reborn and the current version will be different.
5. The amount of gil players currently possess will become 1/10th of what they possess when A Realm Reborn launches.

In other words, all the hard work you've put into saving up gil won't be lost. Even though the gil you possess will become 1/10th what it currently is, we're adjusting NPC sale/buy prices to also become 1/10th what they are now, so relatively nothing will change. However, we do apologize that this may be a shock emotionally.

Players may feel like "my money is being reduced!" However, we're doing this so that when we launch A Realm Reborn and support it for many years to come, it will be easier to play with a more realistic sense of value than just having huge economical digits just because.

The whole reason for this change is to rectify the increase in cost of items relative to the price of arrows, since archers in A Realm Reborn will no longer need arrows. I'd like to make it clear that we have no other agenda in wanting to reduce the amount of gil everyone has currently.

During the live stream I tried to convey this all by saying "the entire economy will become 1/10th of what it is currently, so there is no detriment," but I apologize for my lack of explanation.

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From here on out is just icing on the cake, so if you are not so keen on somewhat overly complex details, feel free to skip over this.

The devaluation to take place with the shift to FFXIV: A Realm Reborn, as stated above, is making the amount generated, the amount gained, and the amount in circulation 1/10th what it is now. In other words, it would be best for players not to do anything at this point in time.

I'm sure there are some thoughts about selling items before they become 1/10th what they are currently, but as I wrote in #1, 3, and 4 above, the NPC item purchase prices and items that are useful in battle will change to go along with the balance changes in A Realm Reborn.

For example, let's say you're thinking "I better hurry up and sell Heaven's Eye Materia IV!" However, with the balance in A Realm Reborn, there is a possibility of changes in the amount of these being generated and they could not be as effective as they are currently. This is something that we cannot clearly answer as we're balancing this as we are creating it. While there is still the possibility for futures purchasing, please keep in mind that there is also the possibility for large losses as well.

In other words, it would be best to stay the current course.

[Nakiamiie]

Happy Monday everyone!

I have quite a lengthy follow-up from Yoshi-P in regards to question about gil that he answered during last week's Producer Letter LIVE.

Sounds good. It's not like I really cared about gils anyway.
Good things are bought with seals, crafted (by myself) or dropped.

No complaint here.

[Mireille]

Sounds good. It's not like I really cared about gils anyway.
Good things are bought with seals, crafted (by myself) or dropped.

No complaint here.

What about the large pieces of land that require large amounts of gil to buy from an NPC? Or those expensive housing upgrades? For those of us who worked hard at making gil in 1.0, for the very reason that we would be well on our way to buying some of the great things 2.0 would bring, are being shafted and given the reasoning that arrows make up 90% of the current economy so removing arrows means 90% of our gil has to go. Oh but I haven't really lost anything because I can now buy cotton underwear from an NPC for 1/10th the price.

For those who haven't worked on saving up a nest egg this isn't a big deal, but for those of us who have we are in fact losing something.

[KaplanHomahru]

What about the large pieces of land that require large amounts of gil to buy from an NPC? Or those expensive housing upgrades? For those of us who worked hard at making gil in 1.0, for the very reason that we would be well on our way to buying some of the great things 2.0 would bring, are being shafted and given the reasoning that arrows make up 90% of the current economy so removing arrows means 90% of our gil has to go. Oh but I haven't really lost anything because I can now buy cotton underwear from an NPC for 1/10th the price.

For those who haven't worked on saving up a nest egg this isn't a big deal, but for those of us who have we are in fact losing something.

Spoiler: Your nest egg will be (relatively speaking, not literally) the same size in 2.0! Congrats!

[Mireille]

Spoiler: Your nest egg will be (relatively speaking, not literally) the same size in 2.0! Congrats!

I already understood that bit, but hypothetically speaking lets say a desirable game item costs 99 million in 2.0, and a person with 100 million goes down to 10 million. They have in fact lost 90 million gil, and the ability to buy that item.

Btw can I get another side order of snide to go with that troll?

[Alerith]

I already understood that bit, but hypothetically speaking lets say a desirable game item costs 99 million in 2.0, and a person with 100 million goes down to 10 million. They have in fact lost 90 million gil, and the ability to buy that item.

Btw can I get another side order of snide to go with that troll?

If they cannot afford it in 2.0, then they wouldn't have been able to afford it in 1.0. Unless you're of course insinuating that the cost remains the exact same between 1.0 and 2.0, which would be rather silly.

[Aku]

I already understood that bit, but hypothetically speaking lets say a desirable game item costs 99 million in 2.0, and a person with 100 million goes down to 10 million. They have in fact lost 90 million gil, and the ability to buy that item.

Btw can I get another side order of snide to go with that troll?

But an item that costs 99 million in 2.0, would have cost 990 million now. That's the point. A person with 100 million couldn't affort it now either. You are just converting the value of the money, not losing anything.

[Mireille]

But an item that costs 99 million in 2.0, would have cost 990 million now. That's the point. A person with 100 million couldn't affort it now either. You are just converting the value of the money, not losing anything.

Yes I can see that too, but my point is about an item that costs 99 million. If you reduce someone from 100 mil to 10 mil you place that particular item out of reach. You do in fact take something away from them. Even though with no change there could potentially be items that cost 999 million it doesn't change that fact. A friend of mine on hearing of this change quipped that "his 300 gil would go to 30 oh well." I will loose 10s of millions that I worked my ass of to earn, and was promised at the start of the rebuild would not be taken from me. I could have put the time I spent doing that into something else.

[KaplanHomahru]

I already understood that bit, but hypothetically speaking lets say a desirable game item costs 99 million in 2.0, and a person with 100 million goes down to 10 million. They have in fact lost 90 million gil, and the ability to buy that item.

Btw can I get another side order of snide to go with that troll?

You are absolutely correct. If someone is still trying to sell that item (AT MAX GIL 99m) you wouldn't be able to buy it. You should consider that, NOBODY can buy it (unless they want to spend ALL THE GIL THEY CAN HOLD) so naturally the price will go down dramatically. Apply that to the every item being sold

[TimonLoon]

I already understood that bit, but hypothetically speaking lets say a desirable game item costs 99 million in 2.0, and a person with 100 million goes down to 10 million. They have in fact lost 90 million gil, and the ability to buy that item.

Btw can I get another side order of snide to go with that troll?

You, like many others in this thread, have failed simple economics... This is actually becoming sad now.