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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    War on the RNG!

    You can easily replace it with exponential drop rate tables or counters - which would focus more on skill and less on luck (completing it successfully with a assured or almost assured rate of achievement). Assured rates would also give reason to make the encounters more challenging even more emphasis on skill (since you know you arent wasting your time on lady luck).
    You could, but then you will have those people screaming "WoW" . . .
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    I don't think they're really talking about Relics when it comes to this. I think they're talking more about Primal weapons and more instanced content. In my opinion Relics should be heavy investments and not for everyone but a lot of the more basic stuff should be easier to get a hold of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerius View Post
    I don't think they're really talking about Relics when it comes to this. I think they're talking more about Primal weapons and more instanced content. In my opinion Relics should be heavy investments and not for everyone but a lot of the more basic stuff should be easier to get a hold of.
    Relics can still 'not be for everyone' without extreme luck factors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Yes..he said "You won't spam events in ARR" meaning you're more than likely handed everything the first time around.
    Asking for a sense of progression = being handed everything. You heard it here first.
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    We will never have to spam hamlet 100 times again... we will do 100 kill X mob quest instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    We will never have to spam hamlet 100 times again... we will do 100 kill X mob quest instead.
    FFXI does kill 100 mob for Empyreans, seemed better to me because it wasn't random chance and you know when you were gettting done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    FFXI does kill 100 mob for Empyreans, seemed better to me because it wasn't random chance and you know when you were gettting done.
    I think almost everyone in XI hated that crap >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Relics can still 'not be for everyone' without extreme luck factors.
    The "extreme luck" factor get reduced in a static. And you need a static in some parts of the quest, so the best is to build a static in the beginning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    The "extreme luck" factor get reduced in a static. And you need a static in some parts of the quest, so the best is to build a static in the beginning.
    The more skilled can accomplish things with any random set of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    The more skilled can accomplish things with any random set of people.
    That more skilled person has a 13% chance of getting a seal VS a 100% of getting it in a static if you are up for it. Same 8 People means you will get it with those people. In a random party you are at the mercy of RNG every time you make a pug. Every time 8 people need seals, in a static that is not the case which is why it is better. Has nothing to do with win rate honestly... hamlet is sorta really easy.
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