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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    It really is a shame that they would sacrifice such a significant amount of Final Fantasy Character Aesthetics just to implemented "Standard Western" MMO controls.

    But it goes way beyond just the animations. This control style will removes Turning Around, replace running to the side with contorted strafing and eliminate reliable Camera control.
    Camera control should be the least of your worries i'm sure it will be better than the version we have now, it feels sluggish to me imo
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    That's why Yoshi's team is working a lot to give us a good game with the delay ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatsuguy View Post
    Camera control should be the least of your worries i'm sure it will be better than the version we have now, it feels sluggish to me imo
    You ever played a Western MMO with good camera controls?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    You ever played a Western MMO with good camera controls?
    Cause you played to western MMO with bad camera controls ? (except F2P MMO )
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    That's why Yoshi's team is working a lot to give us a good game with the delay ...
    So far, all I see is another WoW clone with pretty lights and a lack of animation, right down to gearscore. I could live with that. I was prepared to jump right in and try it out. But when they start to sacrifice actual elements that separate it from every other MMO on the market, I start to lose interest and I don't want that to happen.

    No more excuses for square, at least not from me. I've heard it all before from every company.
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    it's true that we saw A LOT of gameplay until now ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    They need to get it out as fast as possible huh?
    Sounds familiar.
    No! This decision had to be made very early on in development. That H key was added months ago! This has nothing (or very little to do with) deadlines.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    And an option to switch them on or off would be out of the question?
    I don't know. But it would probably be just for your character and not for everyone else's. Would that really make you feel better? It would probably just be weird.

    Are you really going to throw out all the good things about ARR just because they took out a few animations?
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    I don't post much (nothing to contribute that hasn't already been said, nothing nice to say, etc., etc.), so I try to make these as meaningful as possible. And this time around, I'm inclined to agree with Gramul.

    I don't play many modern games; I have a generally low budget for video games, so subscription MMO's are usually where I go. Spent way too much time with FFXI. So, to me, this kind of animation blew my friggin' mind when I finally sallied forth to FFXIV. I adored how my little Jivu character actually started moving, stopped moving, and changed direction before moving when I pushed her in a direction she wasn't facing.

    Adored it. And now it's gone.

    The game won't feel real anymore. I'm not whining about immersion. My character is no longer believable. If I run down the street, I don't start out running at my maximum velocity. I shouldn't look like that, either. They went to great lengths to make 2.0 look drastically different from the current version. So far, all I've seen is just prettier graphics on the same ol' same ol'. (Whinewhinewhineit'snotoutyet, but that male miqote PLD used Spirits Within and I cringed when it looked exactly the same.)

    Mechanics are one thing. If the only thing they fixed was the gathering/crafting systems and the item movement UI, I'd laud this as a great success.

    I'm also tired of excuses from this company; you should be fixing the broken game and adding new content to make the game better. Don't take out what was good about it. If I, a person, like mentioned, who can shell out a bit more money to upgrade my hardware to play this game, I think most of their playerbase can too. Scary stop motion.

    One step forward and two steps in a bilateral corkscrew, I guess. So while I took a roundabout way of getting here, and in that I usually giggle at Rokien threads, I will sign.


    --Jivu Wolfasura on Hyperion (Wolfandre)
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    I don't know how many times i've said this, and others ^. But this is a realistic fantasy. Final Fantasy is suppose to have realistic features with fantasy where they need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    No! This decision had to be made very early on in development. That H key was added months ago! This has nothing (or very little to do with) deadlines.



    I don't know. But it would probably be just for your character and not for everyone else's. Would that really make you feel better? It would probably just be weird.

    Are you really going to throw out all the good things about ARR just because they took out a few animations?
    I can understand getting rid of them for a temporary thing, than add em back in after 2.0. buuuut ya, this is just lazy and unintuitive on their part.
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